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How much a single person needs to earn to live alone in the 25 largest U.S. cities
CNBC (Business News) ^ | 22 June 2024 | Mike Winters

Posted on 06/22/2024 10:05:09 AM PDT by zeestephen

The money covers a single person's basic expenses like housing in a studio apartment, food, health care, and transportation...San Francisco: $35.98 - New York: $33.58 - Seattle: $31.93 - Washington, DC: $28.89 - Los Angeles: $26.81 - Detroit: $19.70

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1 posted on 06/22/2024 10:05:09 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Wildly low estimates. Triple them at least.


2 posted on 06/22/2024 10:08:47 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: zeestephen

Needs to be clear - PER HOUR!!!!!


3 posted on 06/22/2024 10:10:02 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: zeestephen

It would be better if they translated the data into monthly income.


4 posted on 06/22/2024 10:11:20 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: zeestephen

I always thought 2 can live as cheaply as one. Aspirin costs go up. That and the Zoloft/Prozac.


5 posted on 06/22/2024 10:11:30 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: zeestephen
Those are sobering numbers and what it means for our youth. Scary. I started working at 14, was on my own at 18, and have never had family to depend on. I remember before joining the military that I didn't have enough money, military solved that, afterwards, I've made more. Even more once I got my college degree. But I fear for my kids.

During covid I took a non-IT job and was hiring most young adults with a high school diploma and limited or no skills. More than once I had people calling out because they could not afford gas to get to work, had no family to help.

6 posted on 06/22/2024 10:12:35 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump Please Build the Wall, And Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone. End H1B!)
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To: zeestephen
1. San Francisco

Hourly wage needed to cover basic costs: $35.98

Hourly minimum wage: $18.07 ($20 for fast food workers)

2. Boston

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $34.02

Hourly minimum wage: $15

3. New York

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $33.58

Hourly minimum wage: $16

4. Seattle

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $31.93

Hourly minimum wage: $19.97 (for most workers)

5. San Diego

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $30.46

Hourly minimum wage: $16.85 ($20 for fast food workers)

6. Washington, DC

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $28.89

Hourly minimum wage: $17.50

7. Los Angeles

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $26.81

Hourly minimum wage: $16.90 ($20 for fast food workers)

8. Atlanta

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $26.63

Hourly minimum wage: $7.25

9. Denver

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $25.85

Hourly minimum wage: $18.29

10. Portland, Oregon

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $25.67

Hourly minimum wage: $15.45

11. Orlando

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $25.51

Hourly minimum wage: $12

12. Inland Empire, California

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $25.34

Hourly minimum wage: $16 ($20 for fast food workers)

13. Miami

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $24.97

Hourly minimum wage: $12

14. Phoenix

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $24.78

Hourly minimum wage: $14.35

15. Charlotte

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $24.48

Hourly minimum wage: $7.25

16. Tampa Bay

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $24.32

Hourly minimum wage: $12

17. Dallas

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $23.84

Hourly minimum wage: $7.25

18. Chicago

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $23.72

Hourly minimum wage: $15 (for most workers)

19. Philadelphia

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $23.39

Hourly minimum wage: $7.25

20. Baltimore

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $23.13

Hourly minimum wage: $15

21. Minneapolis-St. Paul

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $22.81

Hourly minimum wage: $15.57 (starting July 1)

22. Houston

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $21.56

Hourly minimum wage: $7.25

23. St. Louis

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $20.39

Hourly minimum wage: $12.30

24. San Antonio

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $20.29

Hourly minimum wage: $7.25

25. Detroit

Hourly wage to cover basic costs: $19.70

Hourly minimum wage: $10.33

7 posted on 06/22/2024 10:14:45 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump Please Build the Wall, And Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone. End H1B!)
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To: Thank You Rush

Per hour...

Whoops - I thought that was in the headline.

On the other hand, what else could those numbers possibly mean?


8 posted on 06/22/2024 10:14:45 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: JonPreston

I agree. What’s missing from this is at that these wages, a lot of their costs are shifted to the taxpayer to subsidize housing, insurance, and food. And, at these low levels, people dependent on it won’t have time or ability to gain an education to move up. It’s a trap for most people.


9 posted on 06/22/2024 10:17:13 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump Please Build the Wall, And Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone. End H1B!)
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To: Wuli

It would be better if they translated that into annual before tax income and after tax income with all required or otherwise normal deductions sufficient to cover all taxes.


10 posted on 06/22/2024 10:18:08 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: zeestephen

Perhaps splitting a house with three others would be less costly.

single = poor (both in money & quality of life)


11 posted on 06/22/2024 10:18:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: zeestephen

The NYC estimate looks like utter nonsense to me.


12 posted on 06/22/2024 10:19:21 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Reno89519
Your complaint rings hollow.

Minimum wage is not, and never was, supposed to indicate a livable wage.

Instead - it was meant as a wage to introduce new workers to the workforce when they didn't have a lot of value to offer.

Now we have people who have wasted much of their life not creating value for their skills and people like you complain that they can't survive on minimum wage.

I've busted my butt for many, many years to earn what I do - nothing was given to me by my family or the government.

My sympathy meter reads "0".

In an effort to help people create marketable value in their skills I spend quite a bit of time doing free mentorship - but I find most people are too lazy to even do that - they want me to do their work for them.

I'm not surprised you responded to the post the way you did - given your other leanings...

13 posted on 06/22/2024 10:20:38 AM PDT by politicket
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Not reading the article, but it seems they are ranking to most popular liberal hellholes. :)

Hello from Smalltown, NC


14 posted on 06/22/2024 10:21:39 AM PDT by Zack Attack (✔)
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To: zeestephen

So a young married couple should be able to live anywhere if they’re frugal and serious about building careers. I guess that is a big if though.


15 posted on 06/22/2024 10:26:35 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)
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To: politicket
This may have been partially true when the concept was originally discussed, but it is not correct or realistic today. It is wrong to dismiss this wage as not setting a minimum to ensure people can live, maybe not thrive.

And it is wrong to say they should rely on families, live at home, etc. That is not an option for many young adults, unhealthy at best.

Minimum wage should reflect what is required to pay the bills. I realize that raising the minimum wage causes prices to go up, jobs to be lost, but there has to be a balance there. A formula to work.

When it takes on average around $25 an hour to live without handouts, then the minimum wage should be $25.

This would be mostly solved if we implement E-Verify, not give work papers to illegals, deport them, and throw employers into jail who hire illegals or H1B or other visa holders instead of Americans.

16 posted on 06/22/2024 10:26:35 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump Please Build the Wall, And Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone. End H1B!)
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To: zeestephen

Misleading. The CNBC article says it’s for “basic” costs, implying that’s the minimum the single person would need. Yet, the source it said their article uses, the Economic Policy Institute Family Budget Calculator, doesn’t say anything so dire. Instead, the EPI FBC says it is a “modest yet adequate standard of living.”

“EPI’s Family Budget Calculator measures the income a family needs in order to attain a modest yet adequate standard of living. The budgets estimate community-specific costs for 10 family types (one or two adults with zero to four children) in all counties and metro areas in the United States.”

Modest yet adequate.

Recall that Star Trek’s Mr. Spock said that to say someone or something does an “adequate” job is high praise from a Vulcan, because adequate means exactly what is needed for the job, not lacking at all (paraphrased).


17 posted on 06/22/2024 10:27:15 AM PDT by Notthemomma ( )
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To: zeestephen

“All in the Family”

circa 1970

New York City

“Meathead” lived with his wife
in the wife’s family home
for a number of years

“Sanford & Son”

circa 1973

Los Angeles

Lamont lived with his father Fred in south LA


18 posted on 06/22/2024 10:28:22 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: zeestephen

If you are an illegal alien, then most of these expenses are covered by the hosts.


19 posted on 06/22/2024 10:29:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: zeestephen

32 hour work week or 40 hour work week?


20 posted on 06/22/2024 10:30:06 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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