I was referring to us using the term “unprovoked” to describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Of course it was “provoked” by us.
—We basically installed a BS government in Ukraine after we sponsored a revolt and over threw a government (Maiden).
—We withdrew from the Ballistic Missile Treaty, which has serious ramifications if Ukraine is in NATO.
—We were in violation of Minsk and were arming, training, folks in Ukraine using foreign forces we had in Ukraine. We were allowing mercenaries to flow into Ukraine and more or less paying for these!
—We continuously try to violate Montreux (but the Turks don’t let us).
—We lied about NATO East expansion and then pretend like we didn’t lie.
Yet we keep repeating this narrative of Ukraine having been attacked without provocation.
Listen to this guy, he’s outright funny: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Lloyd-J.-Austin-III-on-Putin.mp4?_=1
—How long have we been in Iraq? 21 years, and we invaded under false pretenses and have been asked to leave about 20 times... and here we are talking about “illegally occupied Ukraine.”
—He of course uses the term “no provocation” and “unprovoked” regards Russia invading Ukraine.
—He uses the terms “annex, sovereign,” talks about “behavior we don’t want to see” (because we decide what is right and wrong), “erase borders, unjust, illegal, invasion.” Literally, all you have is a bunch of slogans strung together. Not one argument is made. Using emotionally laden words, this appeals to feelings but is a non-argument. He should have been laughed off the stage. I would have laughed at my kids if they were to try to argue like this when 12 years old.
We withdrew from the Ballistic Missile Treaty, which has serious ramifications if Ukraine is in NATO.
Yeah, G. W. Bush is no friend of this nation either. He like his father were both all in on the One World Government run by what they perceive themselves as being, the Gods amongst men.
We continuously try to violate Montreux (but the Turks don’t let us).
Why would we do that as it guarantees safe passage during peacetime? I can't really say I am familiar with that. I know about the Montreux Convention, but not how we try to violate it. Tell me more. I'm interested.
Lloyd Austin is worthless, and on top of that he is destroying our military.
I completely agree with everything you have said. I must have had a mental lapse in how exactly you were using that word, even though I clearly see it for how it was meant. Putin was without question provoked. Not even sure why I misread why I misread what you had said. I had even gone back to the post you were relying to McGruff, and I agreed with his post, and he hadn't even said the word unprovoked.
So, perhaps that is what threw me off. But I can see you are a person who is on the right side of this argument, and that you realize what a colossal mistake it was for us to do what we did. I sincerely apologize for misreading that. Must be having a senior moment. 😋