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1 posted on 06/17/2024 5:02:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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You mean a Disney production is false and inaccurate? Shocking.


2 posted on 06/17/2024 5:05:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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Unfortunately with a Hollywood production, truth is often left on the cutting room floor. The musicians story is fascinating! Learning the these musicians were the source of a large amount of the 1960’s popular music was very exciting! Looks like The Monkeys were not the only creation of this industry.

So just know some of the story offers a fascinating glimpse into the real musicians of our youth.

3 posted on 06/17/2024 5:11:40 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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The Tedesco documentary is great, and Kaye comes off very well in it. Getting mad about what year the nickname was invented seems to miss the point that everyone is praising you and you should receive it graciously.


5 posted on 06/17/2024 5:15:55 PM PDT by babble-on
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Truth is, the whole thing is based on fake and phoney. Virtually everyone buying those records looked at those photos and did so believing they were hearing th actual Beach Boys playing and singing (an illusion the record companies work hard to maintain). So I don’t much care about Carol’s butthurt over the specifics of the fakery. The important thing was they were well paid and the checks didn’t bounce.


6 posted on 06/17/2024 5:20:08 PM PDT by bigbob
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What does it matter, Carol? Most people assume the recording is done if not all performing at once, then very close together. Just paying attention to how the Beatles and most of Motown produced records back then, I always knew that wasn’t so. Some stars don’t want to cut their vacations short just to fly back and record together.

After some group members hit the big time, they may have tired of working together any more than absolutely necessary, so they create new work in various stages and various studios.

Why be so bitter, Carol, when your legacy continues to be appreciated and to live on?
Oh, and I guess any money you get is kinda nice too, huh?


7 posted on 06/17/2024 5:23:37 PM PDT by lee martell
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Poppa Doo Run Run does Beach Boys better than the Beach Boys.http://www.papadoo.com/


10 posted on 06/17/2024 5:37:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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Playing notes on bass that somebody else created makes you a musician... It doesn’t make you a genius. The person who created the notes, Brian Wilson, is the genius. Some others added lyrics and those are important too... But Brian Wilson was the genius behind the Beach Boys and the documentary makes that more than clear. Others were along for the ride, but he was master of that circus

The Wrecking Crew was a great group of very talented studio musicians who played his music very well. Period!


12 posted on 06/17/2024 5:40:04 PM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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Soon as I saw the headline, I knew it was Kaye. As a bass player myself (but of the “local band” variety), I’ve always had an interest in her stuff, but she’s quick to call out the BS even when the BS is just how things are done. It’s like an actor saying a movie is BS because the actor wasn’t doing his own stuff. “That’s not really him!”

Yes, we know a lot of male actors were standing on boxes during some scenes with their leading ladies. It’s not a conspiracy.

However, she’s a good source to call it out. And presenting it the way they apparently did in this movie does make it a case of “based on a” true story, but not the real story.


14 posted on 06/17/2024 5:49:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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interesting that most of these musicians wanting to claim some fame were no where to be found at the MANY live performance concerts. having grown up as a performing musician and spending an uncomfortable amount of time on stage just doing my job at the time, it really doesn’t matter who wrote or did the studio version of any song. either you can pull it off successfully on stage or you can’t and SUCK! THAT is the reality. live albums have the musicians on stage performing the songs. that is a simple fact. signed:been there, done that...and the life of a musician mostly sucks.


15 posted on 06/17/2024 5:50:00 PM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYc4DT18EJg


16 posted on 06/17/2024 5:56:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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“ Kaye re-emphasized that the session instrumentalists and the bands they played for never crossed paths in the studio”

That’s the crux of it. And all of it.

These musicians were hourly workers. That’s all.


17 posted on 06/17/2024 6:07:50 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Carol Kaye is a bonafide icon. There is no other viable opinion. She is outspoken about the talented musicians she was privileged to work with and hard work she and other studio musicians put into 60's and 70's hit records.

And she has every right to call b.s. on Disney or anyone else who says they played on the recording when they didn't.

19 posted on 06/17/2024 6:25:42 PM PDT by Ikeon (Ssdd, day 20,xxx , still surrounded with sub intelligent beings on all sides. )
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