Posted on 06/11/2024 7:32:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Words have meaning — especially words that mean the opposite of what one thinks. Clear definition has greater meaning.
Fascism allows the business to keep the means of its production, the factories or farms, but takes the output (profit). The Nazis of 1930s Germany were Fascists. “Nazi” is an acronym for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Today we call it corporatism. The end result is control.
Communism takes both the means of production and the output. The Communist Party ruled the USSR until its economy failed in the 1980s.
Both assume that the State owns everything. In truth, both imply that the individual has no rights, no individualism, no freedom. The State is all. Their slogan is “Together.” But their meaning is “Give me everything.”
While fascism and communism are social concepts, the State cannot obtain control of everything without intervening in its population’s private and economic lives. Since, in their minds, the State is all, there can be no individual and therefore no right to ownership. The State will regulate everything; tax all; and live, for a short time, off the steadily declining capital of the few remaining individuals.
Socialism is the midpoint between freedom and serfdom. It is the gateway drug to convince the weak and weary that if they give up their greedy, individual ways, and worship a government, that government will take care of them.
Socialism starts the population down the path of believing that their problems are so great (climate change, pandemics, inflation, recession) that they need a greater entity to step in. That greater entity is the State, government, bureaucracy. Show me any economic philosophy that survives communism, fascism, or socialism.
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The left does not care. They want things to be destroyed.
I have two ways to answer this question, objectively and subjectively. Objectively, it is on the left. It is big government centrally controlled and wealth distributionist. They only allow private business to operate because it creates wealth that be taxed.
Subjectively, which is how liberals define it, it is to the right of the liberal. In other words, the liberal is identifying himself as a communist.
Actually Goebbels explained it best!
Difference between Communism and National Socialism - “ In Communism the state owns the means of production. In National Socialism the state owns the man who owns the means of production!”.
The lie that the National Socialists were “right” is one of the biggest lies of the 20th century.
Hitler was expressly anti-capitalist.
He favored gay rights and, in fact, the head of the SA was openly gay (until the Night of Long Knives), animal rights, vegetarian, centralized government, opposed religion not controlled by the State, government control of everything, government control of children.
Literally the only difference between Hitler and Stalin were sematics and Stalin wasn’t as obsessed with race/Jews.
He favored gay rights and, in fact, the head of the SA was openly gay
I’m sure all the gays killed in the concentration camps would have been relieved to hear that.
Hitler was a Communist.
Anything unconstitutional and not capitalistic is left. Whatever name you give it. Socialism..communism..fascism..CRT..FBI..PBS.. biden family...
How should you characterize something economically liberal and socially conservative?
Something most of the people want, most of the time?
Something neither party will offer?
Well - if you use the “F” word, you’re not going to get it.
That literally was not a policy of the Nazis until he betrayed them at the request of the existing military on the Night of Long Knives. Their initial policy was open acceptance of gays. And lots of Nazis were closeted gays, especially in the SS.
The Night of Long Knives (and the new policy) was mainly an excuse to get rid of Ernst Rohm and the other top gays in the SA (Brownshirts) that had been so critical in Hitler’s rise to power, but which were an impediment to acceptance by the professional military and that Hitler viewed as a threat to his power, due to their popularity.
I don’t even understand why they site national socialism. Fascism was literally an invention of Italy and rose in the 1930s and Mussolini. The words basically didn’t even exist in political or historical language until that point.
Now, if you get on wikipedia or read articles like this, “fascism” has been morphed into this generic over-arching term for “far right” authoritarianism.
Eh, I think a better statement is fascism and communism are merely stylistically different.
In reality and practicality, they are the same, but just used different phrasing.
Copper jacketed lead is the answer.
Always
In the SA not the SS. Ernst Rohm SA chief was a flagrant homosexual. During “Long Knives” he was arrested in bed with his SA toy boy. His closeness to Hitler from the early days to “Long Knives” plus some other not well documented evidence points to Hitler as a homosexual masochist.
The fascists were Leftists. They were quite openly and declared themselves to be socialists.
The primary differentiator between the National Socialists and the State Socialists (ie Commies) is the National Socialists were smart enough to leave the existing business owners/managers in place so long as they did the government’s bidding.....ie made what the government wanted them to make. The Communists stupidly killed off the owners/managers and instead dropped in Communist party flunkies who had no idea what they hell they were doing to run the businesses.
Make no mistake though, under the fascists, the government dictated what you would produce and very strictly limited the profit you could make. Woe betide you if you tried to actually run the business for yourself or not do what the government told you to do.
““To put it quite clearly: we have an economic program. Point 13 in that program demands the nationalization of all public companies, in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism. … the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners.” - Adolf Hitler
“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” - Adolf Hitler
“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people.” - Adolf Hitler
“Germany’s economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people.” - Adolf Hitler
Read the above. This is anything but a Conservative...or a liberal in the classical sense. Hitler was a collectivist who believed in the state and viewed individuals as nothing more than cogs in the machine. This is Leftism by any definition. Here is what Ludwig Von Mises said about the subject:
Von Mises in his Human Action (p. 171) said:
“There are two patterns for the realization of socialism. The first pattern (we may call it the Lenin or Russian pattern) . . . . the second pattern (we may call it the Hindenburg or German Pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers … bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government.”
No, the national SOCIALISTS were definitely not “Right wing”.
“The day of individual happiness has passed,” Hitler returned. “Instead, we shall feel a collective happiness. Can there be any greater happiness than a National Socialist meeting in which speakers and audience feel as one? It is the happiness of sharing. Only the early Christian communities could have felt it with equal intensity. They, too, sacrificed their personal happiness for the higher happiness of the community.”
“If we feel and experience this great era thus,” Hitler concluded, “then we shall not be disturbed by details and individual failures. We shall know then that every road leads us forward, no matter how much it seems to go in another direction. And above all, we shall then maintain our passionate desire to revolutionize the world to an extent unparalleled in history. It gives us also a special, secret pleasure to see how the people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. They gaze fascinated at one or two familiar superficialities, such as possessions and income and rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”
And some still falling for it
the dems are in the process of coughing up the blacks , and indeed all usa citizens, to reward loyal (illegal) imported state serfs .
even if it has to, and in fact is,
importing foreign loyalists whole sale.
bkmk
If Biden gets re-elected, we’ll be seeing what fascism is like in this country.
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