REPORT: Trump Campaign Sends Vetting Paperwork to 7 VP Contenders — Here’s the List

100percentfedup ^ | Jun 6, 2024 | By Kaley

[airdalecheif]

This just in: The Trump campaign has reportedly sent vetting materials to a small selection candidates in the running for Trump’s VP pick, formally asking them provide personal information in order to be considered as a potential running mate.

According to reports, vetting records have been requested from these 7 candidates:

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) Dr. Ben Carson

[Engedi]

I would pick Admiral Mike Rogers, he helped Trump expose the spying going on.

[bankwalker]

I prefer General Flynn myself ...

[Jonny7797]

Not sure about Carson. Heard him on a interview with CNN, he sounded a bit slow to me.

[EnderWiggin1970]

I'm not thrilled with any of these choices. Not terrible, but no one stands out as having demonstrated the necessary resolve to keep fighting the Deep State that has been transitioning the country away from a constitutional republic and into a fascist bureaucratic oligarchy.

Whomever is chosen will be the default standard-bearer for the Republican party in the next election cycle or two; we really need someone who shares that core characteristic that Lincoln saw in U.S. Grant and that we see in Trump: "He fights."

[38special]

Texas Governor Greg Abbott would be the wise choice. Disappointed that he’s not in the running.

[UnwashedPeasant]

He needs someone who can be President for 8 years after Trump and take the reins of the MAGA movement.

We must learn the lesson of Reagan picking Bush.

[Nea Wood]

I think Eric lives in Florida. Not sure where Don Jr. lives. I don’t know of any rule saying there can’t be a father/son ticket. Obviously fathers and sons have been president before, just not at the same time.

So why can’t both candidates be from Florida? And why would that cancel out Florida’s electoral votes? What is the purpose of that rule (canceling the electoral votes)? Has there ever before been a ticket where both President and VP were from the same state?

[cuz1961]

I do love Ben Carson

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me too.

but i veiw him as a gentle giant , whos major talent and love is healing diaseased brains

sonething the left desperatly needs.

he would be perfect as VP.

[Nea Wood]

Agree.

[Redmen4ever]

Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who was national security advisor for 22 says during Trump’s first term, was pardoned by President Trump for the process crime of lying to the FBI. Those who would like to see presidential pardons and commutation of sentences for the victims of Democrats weaponizing law enforcement should focus on actually helping Trump get elected.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for posting Go Gordon.

"I thought you couldn’t have the President and VP reside in the same state."

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Not that the states comply with constitutionally enumerated rules for electing a president anymore, but these rules require a given state's constitutionally qualified electoral voters to vote for a POTUS or VP who resides outside their respective state.

• "Article II, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."

• Excerpted from 12th Amendment (12A):

  "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves [emphasis added]; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; ..."

[cnsmom]

I’d really like a strong Black Father to get elected and really help be an example to change this country.It won’t be easy and will need many decades but it needs to start somewhere.

[wardaddy]

Vance carries on the legacy

[goodnesswins]

Don’t think it will be a white guy...

[personalaccts]

They said it because they didn’t know how Trump was going to govern. After they saw it Rhey got on board for 2020.

[personalaccts]

I like him and Wesley Hunt but Byron lives in FL

[nathanbedford]

In the modern era the vice president candidate has been selected because he would presumably help the ticket either geographically or ideologically.

Donald Trump chose Pence to balance the ticket ideologically, in the wake of Trump's sex escapades he needed an unimpeachable Christian to shore up his evangelical supporters.

Perhaps the most successful geographical choice was Lyndon Johnson by John F. Kennedy because Johnson delivered the barrios, legitimately and illegitimately, along the Mexican border which won the state of Texas, without which Kennedy would not have been President. This even though that, within the matrix of the Democrat party in 1960, Kennedy and Johnson were light years apart and both were despised by the their opposite camps.

If Trump needs a geographical help it would not come from any state of any candidates mentioned here. Trump does not need Florida, South Carolina or Ohio. He will not get enough help from Stefanik in New York to make a difference. Trump needs Pennsylvania, Michigan or Wisconsin; Doctor Ben Carson hails from Michigan and that is a very compelling consideration if one believes that Carson's presence on the ticket could make the decisive difference there.

Without polling data we are unable to make a considered judgment on Carson's potential to deliver Michigan. On the whole, I am of the opinion voiced by many on this thread that Carson simply does not have the charisma nor the aggression to fill the adversarial role of vice presidential candidates, to attack. Further, as noble a character as Doctor Carson undoubtedly is, I don't believe he is simply mean and ornery enough to win election in his own right and carry on as a conservative in office after 2028 and stand against the slings and arrows that a corrupt Democrat party and their corrupt media will hurled against him.

It seems that an overwhelming factor motivating Trump in his selection of subordinates has always been loyalty. Carson, if nothing else, is steadfast but that is not the moral basis for the selection. If Trump wants to act as a statesman he will select someone who can, above all, serve the nation as president. Carson would serve honorably but, I fear, not effectively. One can understand Trump's desire to have a loyal running mate after his experience with Pence and in view of the fact that the vice president is a constitutional officer over whom the president has no effective constitutional control but this is a decision for the ages.

An interesting consideration in the selection is personified by Senator Vance and Senator Cotten. Cotton is not specifically named in this list but he has been otherwise prominently mentioned. Senator Vance is a non-interventionist who was unambiguously clear in his opposition to the war in Ukraine while Cotton has spoken loudly in support of Ukraine and need to protect Taiwan. These two men embody contending policies concerning America's policies beyond the water's edge. In terms of public persona and quality of presentation on television there is nothing to choose between them and, therefore, the choice is whether one believes in a hard-line against foreign adventures or whether one sees the need to avoid another Afghanistan skedaddle that might lead to a disaster in Taiwan because we continue to betray our allies to the point that they abandon us. This is one of the main clefts in the Republican Party; as the age of Mitch McConnell begins to slip into unlamented memory, the issue of American foreign policy will have to be settled. Perhaps the fact that Senator Cotten has apparently been left off this shorter list tells us what Trump believes.

Representative Donalds offers the possibility of thoroughly poaching in the Democrats' traditional African-American domain and delivering us the election. Donalds is highly articulate and reliably conservative who hopefully has a very bright future in the Republican Party but it is a big jump to go from the House of Representatives to the national stage. Representatives Stefanik is equally articulate and able but she, too, is handicapped because she stands on a limited platform. In my judgment the best man for the job, even before Vance or Cotton, is Governor DeSantis who has gravitas, who is a proven executive, a brilliant mind, and a bona fide conservative who will assuredly carry on the policies of Donald Trump because he is a good chance of becoming president and 2028 and beyond. The problem of his coming from the same state as Trump can easily be rectified by Trump declaring his residence in New Jersey as Dick Cheney similarly did when he moved from Texas. DeSantis never puts a foot down wrong, he will not make any mistakes or embarrass the ticket, he will unite the party in this sense that we know we have a man in the wings ready to be president from day one. I believe the only problem is Trump's concerns about loyalty which we may view as an obsession or as prudence born of history.

[Redmen4ever]

What happens to Florida’s electoral votes if both Trump and his VP are from Florida?

First, Florida’s electoral votes aren’t canceled. Florida’s electors can’t vote for both President and VP from Florida. So, they (Florida’s electors) will have to vote for somebody else or abstain from one of the two slots.

Let’s say they (Florida’s electors) abstain from voting for the VP candidate. The VP might be elected anyway, if there is an electoral college landslide. But, if not, the election of VP goes to the Senate. Presumably, the Republicans have gained control of the Senate, and, so, it (the Senate) elects the VP.

If the party of the winning ticket controls a majority of the state delegations in the House of Representatives, but not a majority in the Senate, it’s possible the Florida electors vote for VP and abstain from President. In this scenario, the VP is elected by the electoral college, and the House of Representatives elects the President. This scenario seems to me to be tricky and I would be against it.

Things get tough if a party narrowly wins the electoral college but not the majority of state delegations in the House and also not the majority in the Senate.

BUT ... there’s another, much easier way. I’ll use Senator Rubio to describe this much easier way. After the election is over, Senator Rubio resigns from the Senate and declares he is a resident of Virginia (or wherever he lives in the D.C. area). This wouldn’t be difficult or awkward in any way. Not for a Senator who maintains homes in both his home state and the D.C. area.

Having said these things, regardless of the Constitutional prohibition on electors voting for both President and VP from their own state, it makes sense politically to have a running mate from another state.

[frog in a pot]

If it is one of these, I’d bet it’s Carson.

Not willing to bet that Carson will be chosen, but he could be a top choice.

Trump doesn't realy need a "pit bull" or "attack dog" as mentioned upthread, he is his own. Carson could serve well as the "good cop" in straightening out the R party.

Being Number 2 in a Trump WH could indeed mold Carson into the ideal R president, and then given a "fighting" VP.

Rubio is qualified for VP only by reading an expressly unintended meaning into the 14th.

That, IMO, leaves a toss-up between DeSantis and Burgum as VP best suited to step into the Oval Office if necessary.

[frog in a pot]

If it is one of these, I’d bet it’s Carson.

Not willing to bet that Carson will be chosen, but he could be a top choice.

Trump doesn't realy need a "pit bull" or "attack dog" as mentioned upthread, he is his own. Carson could serve well as the "good cop" in straightening out the R party.

Being Number 2 in a Trump WH could indeed mold Carson into the ideal R president, and then given a "fighting" VP.

Rubio is qualified for VP only by reading an expressly unintended meaning into the 14th.

That, IMO, leaves a toss-up between DeSantis and Burgum as VP best suited to step into the Oval Office if necessary.