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1 posted on 06/05/2024 5:50:11 AM PDT by Red Badger
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I’ve been shopping electric providers and noticed that some of the plans offered have “EV credits” for charging your vehicle overnight. Don’t tell me that, out of the goodness of their hearts, they are forgoing profits to “save the environment.”

That’s OUR money they’re spending.


2 posted on 06/05/2024 5:56:18 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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The ironic thing about this is that most EV’s are in CA. Yet, any time construction of a power plant is proposed in CA, it’s almost always shut down by protestors. The result: rolling brownouts. I find it hard to feel sorry for them when they elect people who rarely think things through, be it power plant construction or no prosecution if you steal less than $950. Stupid...


3 posted on 06/05/2024 5:56:40 AM PDT by econjack
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Bfl


4 posted on 06/05/2024 5:57:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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#4 many will be forced onto public transportation

how will apartment dwellers charge their battery cars, if they can afford them?


5 posted on 06/05/2024 5:58:46 AM PDT by joshua c
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Can AI take in articles like this one and give out a summary?

I ended my subscription to Wall Street Journal. Articles are too long. Too much of the authors’ showing off their writing skills.


7 posted on 06/05/2024 6:05:41 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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Years ago, I saw a Chinese monopoly on EVERYTHING that takes ANY battery...


8 posted on 06/05/2024 6:06:07 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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9 posted on 06/05/2024 6:06:23 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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Follow the money. Some people are making enormous profits from the Green New Deal. They donate to the Dems. Special interests own the USG. Simple as that.


10 posted on 06/05/2024 6:07:14 AM PDT by kabar
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“The people really in charge do not want the average person to have genuine freedom of movement or access to independent power sources.

They want to know everything, keep you dependent, and have the ability to control everything, just like how a farmer would with his cattle. “

Agreed. But to what end?


13 posted on 06/05/2024 6:11:27 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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Just an observation: When electric cars (particularly Tesla) went into mass production a few years back, they looked sleek, shiny, and from the future. They really stood out on the roads.

Now a lot of these older ones are starting to resemble "beaters" on the roadways. A five-year old Tesla looks much like a well-worn 15-year old Honda Civic. I guess what I'm trying to say is that they do not seem to be aging well.

14 posted on 06/05/2024 6:12:33 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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It’s hard just to blame the leftists, dems, and that ilk when the GOPe is more than willing to redistribute your tax dollars (onto the federal debt) as it takes the whole uniparty to do this.

This is just a facet of the global warming crap, windmills and so forth to enrich the thieves and liars that perpetuate this nonsense.


17 posted on 06/05/2024 6:15:56 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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California and some other jurisdictions have drastically cut the price of daytime rooftop solar electricity because there is an excess of it.


19 posted on 06/05/2024 6:20:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Do Americans control their government, or does their government control them?


23 posted on 06/05/2024 6:22:06 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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“sinister”

White Europeans want to screw ‘brown’ people out of fair pricing for fossil fuels.

Exactly how are the people of Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and Venezuela supposed to get by in a 100% renewable energy world?


24 posted on 06/05/2024 6:23:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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This trend is already in motion… and the coming weeks will be pivotal.

While agreeing with the author's rant, I had to blink at this last sentence. What's on tap in the coming weeks? The Presidential election? Another IPCC conference? Hurricane season?

Do tell.

25 posted on 06/05/2024 6:23:45 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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30 posted on 06/05/2024 6:29:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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The grids big weakness besides not enough generation to address the large amount of power to charge,all those EVs are the transformers? Current transformers are designed to cool off at night under low demand conditions. Users start charging EVs over night and the transformers never cool down which is a design feature to increase their lifespan. Transformers are going to be like popcorn, POP! POP! When they get destroyed from too much heat for too long…… Nice one DOE!


35 posted on 06/05/2024 6:33:44 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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Anyone know if the entire fleet of government vehicles, provided to all the federal agents and others, has been replaced with EVs?


39 posted on 06/05/2024 6:43:38 AM PDT by qaz123
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Reason #3: EVs Are About Controlling You

Perhaps for many people. But to that I have two observations that keep me from accepting the premise wholeheartedly.

A) The new legislation for a "kill switch" in cars unfortunately isn't for just EV's. It's for all cars.

B) The left has much control of our access to energy from hydrocarbons (I agree with the author that we should quit using the term "fossil fuels"). The bottom line is that virtually no one can make his own gasoline or diesel (or propane) to fuel his car. But many of us who live in the south can feasibly produce our own power with solar. It takes lots of homework to do it feasibly for your particular situation. But it can be done.

In our case last year, 83% of the power we consumed in our all-electric home came from solar, including charging our EV for a total of 16K miles (not counting miles from charging away from home on trips). 12K of those miles were in the warmest 8 months of the year (when our power is almost 100% free). That's with other luxuries like running a hot tub and such without limiting our lifestyle or care about running or heavy appliances or charging our EV only on days when we have free solar.

I'm not saying EV's are the best solution for everybody, nor should it be forced or coerced with subsidies. But if you have a bit of a prepper mindset and one thing you're worried about is the left controlling our transportation, and if you live in the south where we get lots of sunshine, then having one of your cars being an EV might be the best option at reducing the left's ability to limit your transportation.

We have both an EV car and a gas pickup. The left has to mess up our access to both gas and power to limit us from driving on long trips. And if they do that, we still can drive locally with the EV.

42 posted on 06/05/2024 6:48:17 AM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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There are a lot of EV threads these days...should be more of them, and for the right reasons, too.

I am not "anti-EV" in the sense that I fully believe and accept that people should be able to spend their money they earn as they see fit. And I mean that, from the bottom of my heart. If I say someone is insane to buy an EV as their primary choice of transportation, I still believe that, but I fully support their right to do so if they think it fits their "case study" need. That is FULLY APART from the "money problem" described below, because it is now MY money they are spending, not their own.

I have had conversations with Freeper Tell It Right who frequents these threads (and I see on this thread as well) because he is apparently not the kind of virtue signaling or ignorant Leftist drone that we often see. He looked at the existing situation, formulated his own "case study" after careful consideration, and decided it worked for him. I cannot condemn him for any of the tax credits any more than I condemn myself for riding on a bike path for entertainment purposes which was built with government funds, IOW, my own taxpayer monies I paid in. Tell It Right is right not to take offense at the tenor of these threads, because of the way he has chosen his path. He appears to understand fully the drawbacks and limitations of EVs and lends value to the discussions.

But that is clearly not the case with all purchasers of EVs.

Of the many problems with EVs, the problem that most rankles me is the money problem.

If someone wants to buy a Ford F-150 Lightning which starts at $49,500 with a $7500 credit, are they still going to buy it at $57,000 if that $7,500 tax credit is not there? Of course not. And never mind the losses that the auto industry incur. Car and Driver Magazine says that Ford LOST $130,000 ON EVERY Model e it created!!!! Not a typo, I triple checked that.

The EV industry cannot survive without your taxes and my taxes being paid to people who are wealthy enough to afford a car over $50,000 while I have to stick to cars UNDER $30,000.

What is wrong with that?

I AM PAYING MONEY FOR SOMEBODY WEALTHIER THAN I AM TO BUY AN ELECTRIC TOY THAT COSTS NEARLY TWICE WHAT I CAN AFFORD BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO LIVE WITHIN MY MEANS!

And that does not even touch on the problems inherent in Electric Vehicles themselves, OR the issue of energy availability distribution.

There is guy on YouTube from Australia (MGUY Australia) who is an Engineer (turned lawyer) and car enthusiast, and his excellent YouTube channel has dozens of videos on why Electric Vehicles are a non-viable technology as currently constituted.

He covers everything from the physics and battery construction to insurability. Here are some excellent ones:

These videos are very well done, by someone who understands the fundamental problems and the science behind them.

This business of mandating EVs in some places by 2030, suppressing petroleum production and refinery, all without either increasing energy availability in the form of electricity or upgrading the infrastructure on the ludicrous hope that "battery technology will have a breakthrough" is like lemmings running towards a cliff while assuming that when they arrive at the precipice the cliff will no longer be there !

43 posted on 06/05/2024 6:52:06 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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