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The dangers of arguing with a leftist
American Thinker ^ | 4 Jun, 2024 | Robert Arvay

Posted on 06/05/2024 4:14:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The rich are not like the rest of us. Whether that adage is true or not, it is becoming increasingly clear that leftists do not think as we do. They are not like the rest of us.

I am reminded of the very nice lady who brought her billing statement to our office, insisting that there was an error. She could not possibly owe anything, she said. At first, I thought she might be right, so I went over the entire record of the account with her, line by line. After each item, she agreed that the running total was correct. It was basic arithmetic: charges minus payments. When we got to the final balance, she agreed that the math was correct, but she still insisted that she could not possibly owe the balance due. Even when I asked her to show me the error, which she could not, she remained adamant that there must be a mistake — somewhere.

It was then that I understood the reality of the situation. The nice lady had never been persuadable from the beginning. Facts meant nothing to her. The only thing that meant anything to her was her “feeling.” The stated balance due just did not feel right to her, end of discussion.

When internet discussions became a popular activity in the late 1990s, I had my first in-depth discussions and debates with leftists. It was there that I discovered that there were people who could not fathom why conservatives (such as myself) hold the beliefs we do. How, they would ask, could anyone possibly be so coldhearted as to approve of the death penalty for convicted murderers, who had been afforded every right to defend themselves? But they could not see their hypocrisy in putting to death an innocent fetal child...

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1 posted on 06/05/2024 4:14:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Better to wrestle in the mud with a pig than to deal with a ball of emotional baggage.


2 posted on 06/05/2024 4:14:51 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

Democrats are living proof that comedian Ron White was correct.

There are some things you cannot fix.

You cannot fix STUPID.


3 posted on 06/05/2024 4:17:09 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: MtnClimber

There it is.


4 posted on 06/05/2024 4:35:28 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: MtnClimber

I go onto Facebook and even have the pleasure of family gatherings to read and listen to leftist talking points and often I get the idea that these people use the same alphabet and words but speak an entirely different language.


5 posted on 06/05/2024 4:37:01 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: MtnClimber
Leftists can be very smart. But, if you start with false assumptions about the nature of reality, very smart people make very bad mistakes.

A major difference between a great number of leftists and conservatives exists in their assumptions about the nature of reality.

One assumption by most leftists is "people are basically good". It is the culture which has taught them to be evil.

Most conservatives believe children are wild animals which must be taught to do the right thing. Culture and tradition and religion are how we teach them to do the right thing.

6 posted on 06/05/2024 4:37:25 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: MtnClimber

I don’t bother. No one is changing anyone’s mind.


7 posted on 06/05/2024 4:37:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perfection is impossible. But if you pursue perfection...you may achieve excellence.)
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Not only are leftists wrong, but they are immune to persuasion by facts and reason. They even dispute the math, calling it racist.

If a leftist "feels" you must be wrong, you are wrong. No amount of facts, no documents, no empirical evidence will ever convince them you are wrong and they are right, because they feel it must be so.

8 posted on 06/05/2024 4:38:16 AM PDT by Obadiah
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Never argue with an idiot, they take you down to their level and beat you with experience.


9 posted on 06/05/2024 4:41:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: CodeToad

This comes to mind often in online debates.


10 posted on 06/05/2024 4:47:25 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Obadiah

And there are no conservatives they exhibit this?


11 posted on 06/05/2024 4:47:59 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: tired&retired

Actually, I don’t think this is the right take. Some of the most die-hard leftists I’ve known were very smart, mentally sharp, educated people. They were not stupid. They were arrogant and certain they were always right. They were narrow-minded and didn’t want to legitimately consider contrary viewpoints and evidence. And they were often heavily indoctrinated in left-wing schools and watched and read left-wing media.

The problems weren’t that they were dumb, but that they were indoctrinated, closed-minded, and taught to see themselves as superior and always correct. I’ve certainly seen a lot of Dem voters who were dumb as a box of bricks, but they tended to be voters who barely paid any attention to politics, not the true believers on the left. These people can at least sometimes be reached by simply showing them evidence and arguments they’ve never heard before. The die-hards, on the other hand, often have to face something that shatters their entire worldview before considering other positions.


12 posted on 06/05/2024 4:48:37 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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"You cannot fix STUPID."

But through indictments, trials, convictions, and sentencing you can fix those Demonicrats who give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

13 posted on 06/05/2024 4:49:37 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: MtnClimber

‘Never argue with a gfool. People won’t know the difference’.

Mark Twain?


14 posted on 06/05/2024 4:50:49 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: MtnClimber
The rich are not like the rest of us.

Except for those who actually earned the wealth, the rich are separated from reality in direct proportion to the amount of their wealth.

Anyone who has spent time around trust fund babies is well aware of this.

As always, there are exceptions to the rule.

15 posted on 06/05/2024 4:54:11 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: MtnClimber

Damn near impossible to battle the Leftards F-E-E-L-Z w/ facts


16 posted on 06/05/2024 4:54:33 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: CodeToad

Along those lines...

Proverbs 26:4 ESV
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself.

Proverbs 18:2 ESV
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

Proverbs 29:9 ESV
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

Proverbs 1:7 ESV
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 18:6 ESV
A fool’s lips walk into a fight, and his mouth invites a beating


17 posted on 06/05/2024 4:59:11 AM PDT by Z28.310 (Z28.310...the control group.)
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To: Z28.310

BULLS-EYE!

Thank you for posting scripture that sums up everything concisely!


18 posted on 06/05/2024 5:16:04 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: MtnClimber

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain


19 posted on 06/05/2024 5:18:33 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Obadiah

They are being conditioned, trained, and then indoctrinated with Marxist Activist ideology. The US is being educated for a Marxist takeover. They are the useful idiots. They being for the most part dependent upon the vast web of USG USD.


20 posted on 06/05/2024 5:20:35 AM PDT by Jumper
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