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Posted on 05/28/2024 4:48:20 AM PDT by marktwain
Many readers are interested in how various handgun calibers have performed in defense against bears. This is a complicated subject. Sometimes, any caliber will do. Sometimes a level of power may be required. Sometimes, a level of accuracy or speed may be required. Many permutations exist.
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Here are all the cases that have been documented where 9mm handguns were fired in defense against bears. 9mm is expected to be the common 9x19mm cartridge. These cases do not include incidents where handguns were used with other lethal means or a mix of handgun calibers were used. The incident is included if more than one handgun of the same caliber was used. There are 11 incidents in which 9mm handguns were fired in defense against bears (six black, five brown). They were all successful. The incidents are listed chronologically.
But then the bear turned, looked up at Brenner and lunged, said Lewis, who interviewed the three men Saturday.
Brenner fired twice at the center of the hulking shape closing to four or five feet away. The sow, estimated at 400 to 450 pounds, went down. Brenner then put three more bullets into her head.
He used a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol. Lewis said such a low-caliber gun ordinarily doesn’t pack enough punch
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Would my .357 Magnum be tempting fate?
Makes sense. shoot 10 blankets with wad cutters, now shoot 10 blankets with fmj's . which one went thru better?
More rallying for the 9mm.
For small concealed guns, maybe. My little P365 is quite accurate.
But for self defense where I feel confident, the .40 and .45 is my preference. The heavy frames somehow make them more accurate as my aim is right on where as with the smaller guns I tend to shoot left and down a few inches at 50’.
For home defense a semi auto 12 gauge is preferred with the magazine load alternating between #4 bird shot and double aught buck. A Judge is great for bedtime awakenings.
Isn't that common for a right handed shooter with a minor kick flinch?
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My impression is that getting shot is painful and bears will naturally want to move away from pain.
I have some Barnes Hardcast and feel comfortable with it—— Bufflo Bore
Is very effective.
When in the wild I always keep my handy 32 cal. Pistol handy.
This is effective for bears, mountain lions, or tigers.
Immediately when an attack occurs- I will shoot the old lady in the leg and run like all hell. 🙈
Lot’s of dry fire practice and ball and dummy drills will help your flinching problem.
Here is the 380 article.
Your 357 with proper bullets is a fine choice.
Say what you will, but I wouldn’t go into Bear country without a 12 gauge semi auto with rifled slugs, and maybe a Claymore or two.
You must be a city person.
Many of us live in bear country. So when we open the door we are in bear country.
Having a bear walk through the yard isn’t uncommon.
Carrying a long gun all the time is a PITA. Let alone claymores
YOu would not be tempting fate with a .357 as long as your shot was well placed . IN the eye or between the eyes or right in the heart area.
Its my favorite caliber.
Is shooting down and to the left a flinch or due to a hard trigger pull?
I’ve read much about this. A lighter trigger pull tends to fix this problem. My 1911, even though it is a heavier framed weapon, has a very very light trigger pull. I’m very accurate with this gun. If flinching while anticipating the recoil were the problem, it would be there regardless of trigger pull weight.
On a hard trigger pull a persons muscles in all fingers tend to contract which causes the hand to move minutely. Just enough to make the aim slightly off. I’ve learned that pulling the trigger with the tip of my finger seems to reduce this shooting error because only the first two joints of the finger move instead of the whole finger which may cause the hand to move a tad.
Dry firing and plenty of range time does help one’s aim.
A heavier trigger can aggravate the problem because you apply more pressure to make the trigger release when you think it should.
If you making it fire when you think it should you are flinching.
Many people shoot very heavy double actions trigger just fine.
They learn to control the desire to make the firearm go bang right now.
Very timely post, considering there is a bear roaming around near my neighborhood.
Myself, I’ve got my S&W Model 29 loaded and at hand. Just in case.
I had an adult bear walk right by my deck at 11 a.m. a few weeks ago here in East Tennessee...could have reached thru the deck railing and patted it on the back.
They learn humans are not worthy of respect. They don't fight and establish dominance. They allow themselves to be pushed around.
Once bears lose their fear of humans, bad things happen.
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