Posted on 05/25/2024 2:09:16 PM PDT by Jonty30
Remember the “New Atheists”? They were a big deal 15 or so years ago, bashing irrationality and superstition in bestselling books like “The God Delusion,” “The End of Faith” and “God Is Not Great.” Some of them ultimately ended up as believers, others turned to ayahuasca, and Richard Dawkins recently admitted to being a “cultural Christian.” He still doesn't believe in the big J.C., but acknowledges his worldview was shaped in a Christian context.
In a similar way, I've always been a cultural libertarian. A son of the Mountain West, my traditional conservatism is heavily dosed with a “leave me the hell alone” contempt for Washington, Wall Street and anyone else who dares to tell me what to do. It’s more instinct than ideology. When policy wonks argue how government can best solve a problem, I’m the guy in back muttering, “Why should government be involved at all?”
That said, I’ve never described myself as a full-blown libertarian—never joined the party, haven’t even read “Atlas Shrugged.” Despite admiring the libertarian movement, I’ve always sensed a hollowness at its core that didn’t jibe with human nature.
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“The article is basically pointless.”
As are most of the comments.
Like they used to say about Gernany, either you are on top of them or they are on top of you.
The people in the Whiskey Rebellion would beg to differ.
They invariably nominate some hapless, nobody putz.
Can "the individual" suppress communist revolution, stop mobs from burning down cities, punish rapists and murderers, end usury, and protect the water and the air from spread of harmful substances?
I joined the LP in 1972. I voted for Ed Clark in 1980. I paid dues until 1988.
A perfect society for white men with IQs of >115.
The whole thing is a stupid fantasy.
If you want a good laugh, ask a libertarian how private fire and police departments work.
This guy needs to read all four fiction works:
We the Living. 1936 & 1959.I have and I'm better for it. This is how against Marxism and all of the other collectivist subsets.
Anthem. 1938 & 1946.
The Fountainhead. 1943.
Atlas Shrugged. 1957.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
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They were not ruled.
They were evaluated and found not to be in accordance with We the People.
I specifically stated the difference between the Libertarian Party and the libertarian.
From Wikipedia:Our Founding Fathers would not lynch small "l" libertarians.The term libertarianism refers to a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, provided they allow others the same liberty and avoid harming others by abusing their liberty.
Yep.
Yes they would, your social liberalism would have them burning your houses and running you out of town, unless they caught you doing it, then they would arrest and imprison you.
Agreeing with WASP Christian America on their form of limited government would have merely had them looking at you and wondering why you brought it up since you were just agreeing with them.
1974 was when I first ran into them, it took me all of about 20 or 30 minutes to get into their flaws, but that first 10 or 15 minutes of listening to them talking sounded good.
A libertarian can adapt his speaking to the listener, whether he is a radical liberal or hard right, and let him hear the parts he would like, and they do, even here at FR.
Ayn Rand hated libertarians. In practice she was quite authoritarian in her personal relationships.
What you quoted is basically the NAP which is a nice sounding but unenforceable dictum. If some libertarians are for abortion and others aren’t, then what does the NAP really accomplish?
Mankind used to be busy in the individual need to survive, to eat and become comfortable.
After everything achieved by hard work, it is the policies of the lazy that resulted in all the unimaginable BS today.
Underfed, uncomfortable people do actually channel their time and effort to support themselves. However, when people start living in a world with little occupation in obtaining food themselves, they become more disconnected from reality. Today those people reject right, wrong, or fairness in their need for greed.
As I said, there are limits. Liberals think having police and sewers means we should go fully socialist. When you argue against them, they tell you that if a society cannot be 100% socialist, then it will be like Somalia.
In eternity, I don’t know what to expect. However, one thing I do know is that Satan doesn’t do original he copies and twists the original. Socialism is a copy of how God does things, that much I am certain but it is a twisted copy of the original Heavenly plan.
What is the NAP? What does that mean?
Also a small "l" libertarian doesn't have anybody telling him how or what to think about anything.
For example I consider myself a small "l" libertarian and am against abortion, for a controlled border allowing no illegals cross, and above that I would probably agree with you about everything but your stance on Ukraine.
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