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I had to edit out most of the article, so you should follow the link.

Option 3: This talks about using Linux instead of Windows. Linux advocates should be happy about Windows 10 going away. It will probably be an opportunity for them with many people finally taking the plunge.

Option 4: My guess is that Windows 10 updates going away will be a major boon for computer security providers. Norton, McAffee and others will be more than happy to step in if Microsoft tries to gouge too much for the updates that they are actually still going to be providing for schools, businesses, and others willing to pay.

Option 5: This actually is more about bypassing Windows 11's "requitements" which is actually very easy typically with few negative repercussions at this time. I have installed Windows 11 on several machines that didn't make the cut. It is not hard and there are how to articles and videos all over the place. I have even posted a couple technique on Microsoft's own forums years ago and they were never taken down. Microsoft is just shedding responsibility for future mishaps caused by scammers, etc... Whether Windows 11 works well on old hardware depends on why it didn't make the grade. If you have a capable computer that has a decent processor and enough memory that is just a generation or two behind, then it will likely work fine. Obviously, a 7th generation Core I7 desktop processor is going to do a lot better than a 3rd generation Core I3 laptop processor.

1 posted on 05/19/2024 11:57:09 AM PDT by fireman15
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“but the update channel grinds to a halt”

Not a problem, I disabled updates on my Windows 7 pro system a long time ago.

Funny how well that works. Did what I could for the wife’s Win 10 after the damn thing kept freezing with updates.


2 posted on 05/19/2024 12:01:06 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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I have a Microsoft Surface Pro 3 I bought awhile ago and it cannot be updated to Windows 11 because of its hardware configuration.


3 posted on 05/19/2024 12:01:21 PM PDT by microgood
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Windows 11 is forced rape by MicroSlop.


4 posted on 05/19/2024 12:09:24 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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My considered take as a computer professional is that MicroSlop is trying to chase people off PCs onto tablets and smartphones, where they can be more easily controlled by the smaller screens.


5 posted on 05/19/2024 12:11:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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Computer 1 - A Win7 machine. Won’t be impacted by this.
Computer 2 - A Win10 machine that is Win11 capable. Will upgrade this one.
Computer 3 - A Win10 machine that struggles on Win10 and modern version of Linux. Won’t try to upgrade this one. It’s 4 years old and HP messages me regularly that they won’t provide parts or service any more.
Computer 4 - Win7 that I upgraded to Win10 when Win10 first came out. So likely 15 years old. Not going to even try.

So it looks like I’ll have one Win11 machine and 3 that work.

As a stockholder in various companies, however, I recommend that everyone reading this thread buy a new HP machine and Win11 from Microsoft. You’ll have my thanks for that.


6 posted on 05/19/2024 12:13:42 PM PDT by PAR35
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Windows 11 sucks, so I’ll go for options 1 or 3.


8 posted on 05/19/2024 12:15:58 PM PDT by devere
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I picked up 2 used PCs and a laptop that have W11 for my real computing needs and I assume the old W10 laptops will still be good for listening to music and not doing any banking or shopping on?

How much of a threat is an outdated OS computer if one is only signing into Chrome for music bookmarks, Pandora and using youtube for music while using Avast free and Malwarebytes extension?


9 posted on 05/19/2024 12:18:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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Mandatory paid upgrades are the new feudalism. I wish I had built Bill Gates’s house. “Sorry, you need to upgrade your foundation, because what was installed is no longer supported.” And if he doesn’t pay for the upgrades, his house collapses- because it’s “no longer supported”.

Nobody would buy a house with such terms and conditions, but collectively humanity has made Gates a multibillionaire by buying his software which does exactly that.


10 posted on 05/19/2024 12:19:03 PM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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Linux is not an option for most users, waste of time and effort, plus the tech downgrade. All of the Linux users I know have long ago set up Windows computers to use the software and so forth. Linux is best for servers.

I used to upgrade my computers almost yearly, then less, now when technology requires or something dies. I have Windows 11 Pro, 64GB RAM, 6+TB, and so forth. Very happy, no major problems, the operating system and applications get better and better. I've got some older computers around but cannot see downsizing or downgrading to them. Should just give them away.

11 posted on 05/19/2024 12:19:58 PM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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Boy, how the time flies.

I’d didn’t realize I had been busy avoiding 10 for 10.


13 posted on 05/19/2024 12:21:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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I'm still running Windows 7.

I also have an old Toshiba 1200xe laptop in my closet that works! A 286 that runs on DOS.

14 posted on 05/19/2024 12:24:07 PM PDT by Angelino97
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“Obviously, a 7th generation Core I7 desktop processor is going to do a lot better than a 3rd generation Core I3 laptop processor.”

Whatta ‘bout a [from neofetch...]”Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 “?


15 posted on 05/19/2024 12:24:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Two options? Buy a Mac and quit giving Bill Gates your money, he uses it to support genocide and to buy up American farm land to put it out of production.


17 posted on 05/19/2024 12:28:17 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: fireman15; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ..
Windows 11 -- Because Win10 is hitting EOL ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Embrace the suck.

19 posted on 05/19/2024 12:33:00 PM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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I have three computers, and they are all configured as dual booting PCs, W7 and W10 1909. I keep them like this because certain software I have will only work on certain O/S's. W11, or W12, will not install on any of them, so I won't bother with either of them.

However, once I reach a point where W10 is no longer needed, which I hope happens soon, I will wipe out that partition and re-install Linux, along with GIMP, MasterPDF and the latest office suite. I'll keep Windows 7, with Office 2016, Photoshop CS5, Adobe Acrobat 10 and a good internet security program and that will suffice for anything that Linux software won't be able to handle.

I'll be cool.

31 posted on 05/19/2024 12:48:44 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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My computer is 11 years old and still plays my favorite games due to memory, SSD and video card upgrades over the years. I don’t want a new computer until newer games make the expense worth it. :(


35 posted on 05/19/2024 12:52:32 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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Using Microsoft Windows 10 or 11 makes as much sense for the home user as wearing a wetsuit to bed to make love.
(I’m being as polite as I can.)


36 posted on 05/19/2024 12:55:23 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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Option 6: Ditch Bill Gates permanently and go elsewhere. Apple, Lenox ... any where ells but Microsoft. Some new computers are Lenox prepared. I am trying to reload MS Dos into an old computer so I can use some old equipment bill gates made obsolete.
43 posted on 05/19/2024 1:04:08 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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Linux advocates should be happy about Windows 10 going away. It will probably be an opportunity for them with many people finally taking the plunge.

So far, I have found the Linux equivalents to Adobe Acrobat severely lacking.

I have a 13GB outlook.pst file. I use those old emails frequently. I have not yet been successful in migrating those files to Thunderbird.

The Linux Photoshop equivalents I have used so far are quite capable but much more troublesome to perform routine work, particularly on camera RAW files, for which most of that software have no equivalents, even for Nikon NRW files.

Finally, I formatted a 4TB hard drive on Linux that doesn't show up on Win10, even though I already had another NTFS drive that did. Don't know why, but it's a PITA.

I spent a fair bit upgrading my motherboard to a dual boot setup, but so far it's been nothing but pain.

55 posted on 05/19/2024 1:28:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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HP PC Windows 7 offline work......

2017 IMAC 3.4Ghz Quad core 1TB Mem and16GB DRAM, still works great on Mac Ventura.

Got away from Microsoft decade ago and happily staying that way.

63 posted on 05/19/2024 1:50:28 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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