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What’s Behind America’s Doctor Crisis? The problem is we have an insurance system that is a massive bureaucracy
Epoch Times ^ | 05/10/2024 | Autumn Spredemann

Posted on 05/10/2024 9:51:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Obembacare is giving a license to steal to the entire, medical community.

My wife says that that is the only way to get our tax money back from the crooks.

She may be correct.


21 posted on 05/10/2024 11:02:38 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Dogs Welcome with Open Arms. Humans barely tolerated!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Barry the Marxist Muslim destroyed the Healthcare industry in this country. I have Kaiser but I refuse to use it unless it is a real emergency. So I go to my regular doctor using my AZ address and tell them I have No Insurance, I get in immediately, Pay Cash and walk away for 10%-20% of the normal price for EVERYTHING.


22 posted on 05/10/2024 11:03:00 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind

In the 1990’s I lived and worked for three years in Europe with health coverage provided by a government/employer/employee funded insurer. During that time our twin girls were born and they had pre and post natal and pediatric care, and my wife PT and kinesiologic recovery. At almost no out of pocket expense for us.

The hospital care was excellent, doctors and therapists made house calls to our apartment, and when we visited their offices the people there were the doctor hin or herself and (maybe) a receptionist. It was clear that they didn’t have anything like the government and insurance bureaucracy to navigate we have here. And it’s likely that their medical education didn’t put them a million or so dollars in debt before beginning to practice, or require $thousands in malpractice insurance for protection from predatory lawyers.

We can look down on systems that are messed up in other ways, like Canadian rationed care or the NHS. But our healthcare system is a bloated mess. You have to see how things are done some places elsewhere to realize how completely screwed up it truly is. Talking to some other current or former expats, you’ll probably get a similar point of view.


23 posted on 05/10/2024 11:05:07 AM PDT by katana
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To: SeekAndFind

The rest of the article is behind a paywall, but in response to the excerpt:

- More medical students choose to become specialists now. Primary care doctors earn less money, and they must spend more time on paperwork.

- For a long time, the AMA has successfully lobbied to limit the number of doctors by reducing the number of medical schools, etc.

- While the number of primary care doctors is dropping, the number of nurse practitioners is growing.

In many cases, NPs, physician assistants, nurses, and techs already do most of the work, while the specialist consults and oversees everything.

The real question is, will we have enough surgeons?

As for insurance... Hospitals/doctors try to get as much money as possible from insurance companies, and insurance companies try to pay out as little as possible. That’s the nature of the game.


24 posted on 05/10/2024 12:48:17 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: SeekAndFind

5 month wait to see the dermatologist in Florida recently. Thanks Obama.


25 posted on 05/10/2024 12:54:06 PM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: SeekAndFind

OBAMACARE

OBAMACARE

OBAMACARE, etc


26 posted on 05/10/2024 1:35:28 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

When insurance prices get insane, dump Obamacare and get a concierge deal with a local doctor if available, and with an offshore doctor for serious work that does not have to be done on an emergency basis.


27 posted on 05/10/2024 1:43:00 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe S)
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To: Alberta's Child

Be that as it may, they still make indecent amounts of money, and pay relatively little compared to the real cost to the patient. (unless they have a Cadillac plan, which I had in the past. Yes, they paid nearly everything the two times I had short stay surgeries, but I was paying $1,000/month for that coverage!)


28 posted on 05/10/2024 2:04:21 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re not doctors. They’re pharmaceutical salesmen...


29 posted on 05/10/2024 6:02:45 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Obadiah
AMA sold their soul

A long time ago. Where have you been?

30 posted on 05/10/2024 6:05:35 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jim Noble

Yes, ready to collapse. The ERs are overwhelmed with patients. Many are going bankrupt


31 posted on 05/10/2024 6:09:05 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama (don't) care has chased any number of doctors into retirement and the rest out of private practice.

The hospital tells them what they will do and what care they will offer. There are maybe a half dozen doctors in my area who are not working in a "Care" (ie hospital) net work. And they are not accepting new patients because they are so busy.

And of course the lovely time they have when the insurance company wants them to fill out paperwork justifying keeping a patient on medicine for a chronic condition.

We had a top notch health care system.

And we let Obama kill it.

32 posted on 05/10/2024 6:13:05 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re not doctors. They’re pharmaceutical salesmen...


33 posted on 05/10/2024 6:28:59 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
And we let Obama kill it

Obama didn't kill it.

Failure of one or the other side in the original Medicare debate (1955-1964) to prevail and impose a free-market system or a nationalized system killed it.

The compromise structure of the post-1965 hospital finance system was never sustainable. Reagan's band-aids (DRGs and EMTALA) let the hybrid system survive for a while, but it was never built for the long run.

"Obamacare" became inevitable, if only to keep the doors open for another 10-15 years, but it's just about done now.

34 posted on 05/10/2024 8:00:27 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: ladyjane

The AMA is irrelevant. A tiny minority of doctors belong, and those that do are unrepresentative.


35 posted on 05/10/2024 8:01:50 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: SeekAndFind

Deport all the people here illegally and this problem will vanish like a cool breeze.

L


36 posted on 05/10/2024 8:02:10 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Jim Noble
Incorrect of course.

HMO's were causing problem but the basic structure was sound.

You just have to look at how many independent doctors there were ten years before and ten years after Obama(don't)Care clawed it's way into the health system shredding everything it could get it's nails on to see that what I say is true.

37 posted on 05/10/2024 8:04:23 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Jim Noble

The older physicians don’t belong to AMA but many of the younger ones do - depending on their specialty.


38 posted on 05/11/2024 5:28:19 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: SeekAndFind
The problem is we have an insurance system that is a massive bureaucracy

Exactly what obamacare was designed to do. Roll health care into the realm of federal bureaucracy

39 posted on 05/11/2024 5:43:33 AM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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