So what should be the attitude toward Israel? A new holocaust, or do you think that fictitious?
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I just see it for what it is: a secular European welfare state living in exile at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea.
I think he means that Israel is not based solely on the Torah, but much of it on modern theories of government and science. When Israel was first established, those who formed the government wanted Albert Einstein to be the fist PM.
https://www.britannica.com/story/the-time-albert-einstein-was-asked-to-be-president-of-israel