Posted on 04/12/2024 1:07:35 PM PDT by Miami Rebel
President Donald Trump called on the Arizona legislature to use “HEART” and “COMMON SENSE” and pass a pro-choice bill in a post on Truth Social Friday.
“The Supreme Court in Arizona went too far on their Abortion Ruling, enacting and approving an inappropriate Law from 1864. So now the Governor and the Arizona Legislature must use HEART, COMMON SENSE, and ACT IMMEDIATELY, to remedy what has happened,” wrote Trump. “Remember, it is now up to the States and the Good Will of those that represent THE PEOPLE. We must ideally have the three Exceptions for Rape, Incest, and Life of the Mother. This is important! Democrats are the EXTREMISTS – They support Abortion up to the moment of birth, and even execution of Babies, in some cases, after birth. This should not be. Arizona Legislature, please act as fast as possible!”
Earlier this week, the state Supreme Court in Arizona decided that an old law predating the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade outlawing abortion except for when the mother’s life is threatened was still valid. Trump’s call for the expansion of abortion rights in the Grand Canyon State comes just days after he promised not to back any pro-life legislation if he retakes the White House this November and represents an implicit retraction of his call for states to navigate the abortion debate on their own.
“My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it. From a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land, in this case, the law of the state,” explained Trump in a statement earlier this week. “Many states will be different. Many will have a different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others. And that’s what they will be at the end of the day. This is all about the will of the people. You must follow your heart or in many cases, your religion or your faith. Do what’s right for your family and do what’s right for yourself. Do what’s right for your children. Do what’s right for our country, and vote.”
Kari Lake, the Republican candidate for Senate in Arizona, has also called for pro-choice legislation in the state and promised not to support any federal bans on abortion if she’s elected.
Is the will of the people of the state of Arizona as recently currently expressed the same as the will of the people of the territory of Arizona expressed in 1864?
It seems that the answer is no, and yet, the will of the people of the territory if Arizona in 1864 was just declared by the Arizona judiciary to be the current law of the state of Arizona.
It seems as if justice requires the Arizona legislature to act now to remove this abruptly-imposed disjunction.
Interesting thoughts about this. Thank you.
I watched conservatives refuse to compromise on “gay rights” issues by meeting needs.
I saw no reason why any two adults, gay or straight, could not form a legal compact with legal rights to take care of each other - two widows for instance who are trusted friends. It would have given both rights that were not a marriage, but dealt with many similar issues as they tried to care for each other. It would have been short of marriage, but would have met needs and taken away the argument of gays...
But when this wasn’t pursued, we ended with full legal gay marriage.
Same thing shaping up on abortion.
Precisely.
It’s how the law is handled by those currently living.
We the People can do what they desire to do but...you must start somewhere WITHOUT outside interference.
That was never true.
They let you think that "Reversing Roe v. Wade" = "Banning abortions", and I blame them for lying to you.
Abortion procedures have ALWAYS been subject to State legislation, just as they are now. The hole in the Constitution has been repaired.
The same people are yelling at God, “How can you sacrifice your only begotten son, don’t you value life!”
I hope Dobbs reduces the fetal body count while permitting Republicans to win elections. I’m not confident that will happen. We’ll see.
The only excuse out there.. Men don’t have a clue about abortion.. What goes on.. And that’s no excuse.. Maybe 2 daughters, a wife, daughters in law... Have gotten to him for the bites.. Women who want abortion option are some of the most selfish people.. It’s worth a car..and I don’t know how a human can kill their own.. They’d save a puppy tho.
>>” ....the Arizona Supreme Court apparently held that an 1864 statute supersedes a 2022 statute on the same matter.”
It appears that way. I’m not sure what legal justification they made for doing so. I’m not a lawyer, but at least on its face it seems to be a very poor legal decision, likely motivated by politics.
Trump needs to stay out of it.
In all forms.
The only abortion I support is the life of the mother.
Good point.
Trump’s notion of what’s ideal punishes the not-yet-born for the sins/crimes of others.
Ideally, they should be left alone and given the same chance at life as those others had.
NFN, but Trump appears to be parroting Sean Hannity’s deviant position. Hannity self-declares as Catholic but is no oracle or prophet and should not be relief upon when it comes to this issue.
*Trump needs to stay out of it.*
I agree!!
Thx for responding. 👍
Correct. Charles Stanley I believe had a good discussion on Apostacy yesterday.
We are now officially witnessing exactly that. Bodes not well for America.
This Guy doesn’t agree.
The hearts and minds of the people are not engaged or positively inspired by elites forcibly snapping the law back 170 years.
It seems wrong and brutal and should be rectified immediately.
*Trump needs to stay out of it.*
Trump can’t stay out of it, when the media and everyone out to get him, keep asking him about his stance on it.
Trump was just asked several times about it, while doing an election integrity press conference...
And he went back to it’s a state’s issue, he notes the Supreme Court decision on roe v wade gave the issue back to the state, and some states are going to be more strict than others.
And he spoke on arizona going back to a 1864 law, and that it’ll be worked out by the state.
Do you think the goal of the Arizona Supreme Court was or is to trigger a ballot initiative that will mostly motivate Trump-haters to come out and vote?
I get what you’re saying, Cletus and if PRESIDENT Trump decided to weigh in on this I’d be more inclined to agree with you. But that’s not what we’re seeing. We’re seeing CANDIDATE Trump fighting like hell to win an election and trying to prevent AZ from making a decision that could end up being very costly in that pursuit.
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