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The Growing Weakness of Western Artillery Capabilities
New Eastern Outlook ^ | 3/26/24 | Brian Berletic

Posted on 04/11/2024 7:32:41 AM PDT by hardspunned

After decades of waging war against impoverished nations with destitute armies, or no standing armies at all, the US has suddenly found itself in a rapidly changing world where peer and near-peer competitors are outpacing it in military capabilities. Many of these capabilities are showing up on the battlefield in places the US has until recently enjoyed relative military superiority.

One area the US has found itself particularly weak in is artillery. The conflict in Ukraine has revealed a variety of shortcomings regarding not only US artillery capabilities, but those of the collective West.

(Excerpt) Read more at journal-neo.su ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: agitprop; coldwarjunkies; hoax; killkillkillforpeace; lies; mic; neoconforeverwar; propaganda; russianpropaganda; russsianpropaganda; ukraine; warpigsunite
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To: Chainmail

This video is on a very small screen for me and from what I’m seeing the guy pulling the lanyard is gone. You also have to take in account what round they are using and it’s propellant charge which differ depending on the firing mission.


21 posted on 04/11/2024 9:20:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: MeganC

Bull it sure has. Have you been reading?


22 posted on 04/11/2024 9:23:37 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: MeganC

Here is an example of several articles and videos that are out on our military readiness across all of our services citing similar problems:

https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/air-force-frank-kendall-readiness/2024/04/04/id/1159768/?ns_mail_uid=ba4c8196-73df-4c85-8e67-8ca9b1fdd750&fbclid=IwAR3lAn5ALmsJPcUC0BnG-tZxgcwdcC63fmBfVmWbGbH5VOuBDfLOGg1Pt6g


23 posted on 04/11/2024 9:28:33 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: hardspunned

hilarious propaganda for ignorant fools: no mention of the most advanced artillery in the world, namely HIMARS ...


24 posted on 04/11/2024 9:54:10 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: DarthVader

I don’t dispute there are problems. But sending things to Ukraine that were already slated for storage or disposal has no impact one way or the other on the readiness of active military units.

We still have millions of 155mm artillery rounds at the Sierra Army Depot that are overdue for disposal. Sending them to Ukraine for ‘disposal’ has no impact on stores of new ammunition.


25 posted on 04/11/2024 10:59:05 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: Lurker

But you fail to mention what is incorrect. In other words, your head is placed quickly back into the sand where your DC masters want it to be. To hell with the poor American grunts who’ll pay the price of your’s and others’ MIC stoogery on the battlefield with their crap equipment.


27 posted on 04/11/2024 12:00:40 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: catnipman

Oh yeah, how many HIMARS are available? How about all the ammo for them? You neocons backstab the Ukes with your BS promises of overpriced, but huge profit margin, systems that don’t exist. US ammunition supplies, what a pathetic joke. But your MIC masters couldn’t be happier, they got their obscene profits. You should be proud of yourselves watching the poor Ukes being slaughtered waiting for the equipment you crow about that doesn’t exist. What DC MIC stooges. It’ll be American blood on your hands when our boys are left high, dry and defenseless. But the DC oligarchs appreciate your support.


28 posted on 04/11/2024 12:08:17 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Chainmail

Tell that to the poor Ukes soldiers being slaughtered everyday while waiting on the weapons and ammo you backstabbing neocons promised them. It’s sickening to see the hopeless situation your lying DC masters have put the Uke army in. But the important thing, your MIC hero’s profits, have never looked better. Disgusting!


29 posted on 04/11/2024 12:13:02 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

What countries are learning about American, American allies, and Russian weapons in Ukraine is revealed by international weapons sales and foreign demand.


30 posted on 04/11/2024 12:14:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MeganC

Har, har, har! Stop it! You’re killing me, I can’t catch my breath! Har, har, har! No Mas, No Mas.


31 posted on 04/11/2024 12:14:41 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MeganC

The ammo we have slated for disposal can still be good depending on how it was stored. If properly stored it can last for decades. If it is good we need to retain it for war reserves as we have depleted quite a bit by sending it there. Also if any of those rounds are duds or have issues from not being properly stored it doesn’t help but is dangerous to the Ukrainian warfighters.

Time for us to get out as we can no longer sustain it. Russia has China and India plus many others behind them. When you add it all up its not good. We are not ready to fight WW3. Getting into a global conflict over this is not worth it.


32 posted on 04/11/2024 12:24:38 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

If it is scheduled for expensive disposal then it is not part of our war stocks, it is an expensive burden waiting for disposal.

Having it used against Russia and reducing their capabilities is a double money saving win, our junk is destroyed avoiding our costly disposal regulations and at the same time reducing the threat it was built for.

It’s like it actually got used in the war we were going to use it for but we aren’t actually having to be in that war.

As far as storage, we seem to have high storage standards for ammunition.


33 posted on 04/11/2024 12:36:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

We seem to have high standards. I’ve seen a few instances where we have had bunkers explode with older ordnance in it.

We are getting dangerously close in this situation where it can get out of control and a global conflict can start. Shades of the beginning of WW2 can be seen here.

Our military is not in very good shape right now as many news articles are reporting and I’ve had conversations that affirms them. Time for us to pull back and defuse this situation.


34 posted on 04/11/2024 12:49:18 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

This Russian invasion has led to many huge improvements in the direction of military readiness in America, our Western allies and our Pacific allies.

While we can list problems and deficiencies we should also try and see the vast improvements of the last 2 years, we aren’t in the war but we get to see what we need and the wake-up calls are powerful enough that they are leading to concrete changes, not just in weapons manufacturing but also in new war awareness and cooperation among our global friends.


35 posted on 04/11/2024 1:16:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Readiness my a$$!! Explain all of these and there are many, many more reports. This doesn’t even touch on the asymmetric/irregular warfare issues. You are outright wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvkfMUCqh-k

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-navy-lack-frigates-means-123447806.html

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-navys-ohio-class-submarine-nightmare-just-getting-started-210476?fbclid=IwAR0TD1NrARd3wqxO8fe16zG5v-907o1rVlFXS6r7lIyx-4SOS8ik-uq2qtM_aem_AZvGnOk8zlk72kObWLR9dOZ8R87vhDcQT2BlVnOL3-PdOG1wQ294G21joSzwhUzFeX9soOEQoDnZRB3dRkfMNBN1

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/biden-ukraine-russia/2024/04/05/id/1159962/?ns_mail_uid=ba4c8196-73df-4c85-8e67-8ca9b1fdd750&ns_mail_job=DM605911_04062024&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504qkc0c5&fbclid=IwAR2IwXa1KKlFQ-Z0Va0NvTB-Q2rzjTJBAfL9iv3yu2s8jY6pw0c0bSZL9Zg_aem_AZu7O59kJozlf0g6GAALdv4Q5GVKGTDriHQbJOCWmQyNq4f3ERMaGm4v_ic9ab7YLDLUS0i5akbsygjd_K7Po93v

https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/air-force-frank-kendall-readiness/2024/04/04/id/1159768/?ns_mail_uid=ba4c8196-73df-4c85-8e67-8ca9b1fdd750&fbclid=IwAR3f7VNZm-hiOK32VkH4vb5YBX-0lXLJhxJvnJwukn1QR8fu3iFPGITSlhs_aem_AZtXrpF6iiNpXpT0bo8t8hEtDHS_-EFs6mVC2D5HX0CJ9eyn7EuloRWzuzgv—aLXmyk_5xpDiLT0Gm1SzVnMfIN

https://news.usni.org/2024/04/02/constellation-frigate-delivery-delayed-3-years-says-navy?fbclid=IwAR0JUKimpdrblLdDAwWHTzTVM4PpCJuQD0ndcdQUDyhn1Wyci9GdX0pUJDk_aem_AZvFeCmAHsSpa9Ie4HV_CtbZUuVe0Rpd_CD7vGgYrwcO_6b-E1svWwDvEzQyti0x1f0suZ7TKIfF-x0rwyCnWb9N

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-faces-inevitable-isis-attacks-home-following-moscow-massacre-former-general?fbclid=IwAR1_wb9kvMD0hTVrcjoek_W4fIyKTI9RZEZrcHA4XBTbWL-4IMDFBmEWCoo_aem_AZsLNyG10arl0oE0mVOrFRCYuVfMn4IUxcMZFDntLMb6m2TXu0o5Gcvc6Siqa7wADrL5FegVMuqm3MKSt7UnEAPc

https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/2024/01/19/the-us-is-failing-to-quickly-field-hypersonic-missile-defense/

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/05/1203766333/us-army-military-recruit-pentagon-air-force-navy


36 posted on 04/11/2024 1:30:05 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: ansel12

...see the vast improvements of the last 2 years,....

I have a few friends in the HC who vehemently disagree with that statement.


37 posted on 04/11/2024 1:36:50 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

Do you bother reading the posts?


38 posted on 04/11/2024 1:38:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Right now our national leadership and this civilian military components of it are the biggest disorganized Charlie Foxtrot many of us have ever seen! It needs to be dismantled and rebuilt or we won’t last!


39 posted on 04/11/2024 1:42:04 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: ansel12

Yes I did read it and am better informed than you are. Your assertations are delusional!


40 posted on 04/11/2024 1:43:08 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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