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Is English just badly pronounced French? [18:08]
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Posted on 04/02/2024 10:05:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv
Well you know... french.

You just can not trust anything they say.

41 posted on 04/02/2024 11:11:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: ANKE69

das Geburtstagsgeschenk (Geburt + Tag + Geschenk)
birthday present (birth + day + present)


42 posted on 04/02/2024 11:12:20 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Kind of a dumb, sensationalist way to say that English has a lot of French loan words. We already knew that.


43 posted on 04/02/2024 11:20:37 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Burma Jones
The French word for cow is vache. The word bœuf is used for a steer.
44 posted on 04/02/2024 11:23:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SunkenCiv

One of the reasons I found French so easy to learn was that we share so much vocabulary. Often, it’s only necessary to learn the French pronunciation of a word to know it in French.

reasons = raisons
vocabulary = vocabulaire
pronunciation = prononciation

Etc.

I gave up on trying to learn any more European languages since they just aren’t a challenge. I’ve decided to try Korean, instead. It turned out harder than I anticipated, not just because its vocabulary is drastically different, but because of the alphabet. And the grammar is different than its European counterparts.


45 posted on 04/02/2024 11:26:36 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: dangus
Kind of a dumb, sensationalist way to say that English has a lot of French loan words.

You seem to be on to something. YouTube videos should market themselves this way.

46 posted on 04/02/2024 11:31:51 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Olog-hai

Perhaps I should have said: if you were a peasant tending an animal, you tended to use a Germanic (or German-derived) word, but if you were a higher-class person eating an animal, you tended to use a French (or French-derived) word...


47 posted on 04/02/2024 11:34:11 AM PDT by Burma Jones
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To: SunkenCiv

The truth is that French does not exist. It’s just badly pronounced Latin.


48 posted on 04/02/2024 11:38:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv

Is it?

Wee.


49 posted on 04/02/2024 11:39:33 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
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To: jagusafr

The reverse actually, since German predates English.


50 posted on 04/02/2024 11:39:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: teeman8r

A Germanic base, with lots and lots of French and Latin-based loan words.

There’s a scene in Ivanhoe (set during the Norman conquest) that makes light of this. The common Germanic words were still used for animals when they were alive (cow, pig, deer, chicken), but once the animals died they were elevated to noble Norman/Latin titles (boeuf, porc, venison, poultry).


51 posted on 04/02/2024 11:43:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
The truth is that French does not exist. It’s just badly pronounced Latin.

I believe that's true for all the Romance languages.

52 posted on 04/02/2024 11:46:02 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: SunkenCiv
If you've never seen it, check out "Uncleftish Beholding", a short piece explaining basic atomic theory using only Germanic words. Full text should be findable.
53 posted on 04/02/2024 11:49:22 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: SunkenCiv

No. It’s poorly spelled Latin.


54 posted on 04/02/2024 11:50:00 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: jagusafr
You are correct: English is a form of German with different rules of grammar. I haven’t spoken it in 40 years, but I achieved near fluency during my last two years in Germany, 79-81.

After taking two six-week immersion courses at Spangdahlem AB, I was sent TDY to Todendorf, a German AA range on the North Sea. We were the only Americans for 200 miles. Although I was assigned an interpreter, the German Base Commander told me , “LT, you can ditch your interpreter, your German is just fine.”

I lived in Trarben-Trarbach for 4 years. I spoke mostly German off base. My best friend was living with his future wife, and we all spoke German in her presence. When I visited them in Virginia last summer, I heard her speak English for the very first time. It had been 40+ years since our days in Germany.

55 posted on 04/02/2024 11:51:10 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The English spoken by people from India is almost incomprehensible.


56 posted on 04/02/2024 11:57:16 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: blackdog
Ok, now I know what you mean.
Besides 4 other languages I speak fluent German. I believe this is the longest word in the German language.
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz 🙃
57 posted on 04/02/2024 12:00:04 PM PDT by ANKE69 ("Russians aren't people" proudly posted by MeganC)
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To: ANKE69

Was but has been dropped

The longest German word that is not created artificially as a longest-word record seems to be Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz at 63 letters. The word means “law delegating beef label monitoring” but as of 2013, it was removed from the books because European Union regulations have changed and that particular law became obsolete, leading to news reports that Germany “had lost its longest word”.


58 posted on 04/02/2024 12:08:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: SunkenCiv
Or maybe French is just badly pronounced English. It can be said that Winston Churchill seemed to think so. Extraordinarily skilled in the English language, Churchill also had some proficiency in French. Or so he assumed.

In 1940, Churchill called an emergency wartime meeting in France with the government as German troops were breaking through and France was in a panic. As the meeting opened around a conference table, Churchill, as a sign of sincerity and respect, directly addressed the leaders of France.

After a moment of puzzled looks, a French minister whispered to the British ambassador, "What language is Monsieur Churchill speaking?" The British ambassador replied, "I am sure that the Prime Minister believes that he is speaking French. I get your point."

The British Ambassador then interrupted Churchill and suggested that each side use their own language and let it be translated so that a complete record could be made by the note takers in both languages for the sake of history. Churchill grumbled that was fine by him and proceeded after that in English -- to the relief of all.

59 posted on 04/02/2024 12:10:04 PM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: Boogieman

Meh - my English predates my German...


60 posted on 04/02/2024 12:12:52 PM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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