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The Garden Thread - April, 2024
April 1, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 04/01/2024 6:23:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: MomwithHope; All

That sounds great! Now I’m really looking forward to putting in the effort to do lettuce in containers.

I thought of another benefit — gophers won’t have nearly as easy a time destroying everything if it’s in containers. Let the pests go ruin someone else’s hard work. :-)


241 posted on 04/13/2024 4:14:00 PM PDT by AFB-XYZ (Two options: 1) Stand up, or 2) Bend over)
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To: AFB-XYZ

For me the no bending over is great. Here’s a good shape for getting a lot of lettuce.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Style-Selections-22-17-in-W-x-7-05-in-H-Rust-Resin-Planter/1000175867

I have three similar about 27 inches long. This is the quickest picture I could find. Don’t need a drain tray if its outside. Just drain holes and I have at least a couple of inches of packed shredded straw under the garden soil. It’s more lightweight and at the end of the season they all get dumped on their own little compost pile. I reuse the next year and add some compost. Leaf lettuce doesn’t like to be crowded and likes good drainage. The shredded straw is great for that. The three varieties that do the best for us are regular romaine, Little Gem, and Red Butter Lettuce. If no rain I water at least three days a week, lettuce loves a spray.


242 posted on 04/13/2024 4:33:14 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wow, what a great and creative idea!


243 posted on 04/13/2024 4:43:50 PM PDT by ANKE69 ("Russians aren't people" proudly posted by MeganC)
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To: FamiliarFace

That sounds scrumptious!


244 posted on 04/13/2024 5:10:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: All

Hi fellow gardeners!

I have a raised bed question. My husband wants to just dump soil on top of the grass inside of the wooden frame. Does that same right?

He says the roots of any of my vegetable plants won’t go that deep.

Would there be any point in killing the grass first? Or should it be rototilled up?


245 posted on 04/13/2024 5:43:33 PM PDT by CottonBall (Whenever I'm down, I just remind myself that on trillion dollars worth propaganda didn't work on me.)
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To: Albion Wilde; Liz; All

If you ever find the cheese, get it! I can’t stress that enough. It’s life changing if you love morels. I give it as gifts when I visit friends and family.


246 posted on 04/13/2024 6:05:28 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

A must-have cheese.


247 posted on 04/13/2024 6:20:58 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: Liz

Yes! My butcher is so happy that I buy his stock of it so frequently. Meister offers several others which we’ve tried, but this is my hands down favorite. It’s nice with eggs, but it shines gloriously on top of steak. I would imagine it would be amazing over a great cut of pork also. Haven’t tried that yet, but we will!


248 posted on 04/13/2024 7:05:09 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Albion Wilde

Well, these (source plant) yews grow a lot more than that, but I can’t seem to get starts off cuttings to save my life. Maybe if I dug up some roots???


249 posted on 04/13/2024 8:12:07 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: CottonBall

By all means till it up or pull out the clumps. Yes the grass will eventually die but your drainage will not be as good.


250 posted on 04/14/2024 5:29:39 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: metmom

Nice set-up! ‘Organic’ Critter Control. ;)


251 posted on 04/14/2024 5:43:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: metmom

Something like that would work great for my raised beds - what is the frame made of ... did you make it or get it somewhere?


252 posted on 04/14/2024 5:47:17 AM PDT by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: FamiliarFace; All

“Wild Morel & Leek Jack cheese”

I will second that recommendation! We had a WONDERFUL shop (three locations) called Brennan’s and they had fresh fruit, veggies, every wine under the sun and their own line of cheese. I would always buy the Morel & Leek Jack. So, SO GOOD!

I really miss that store. Never did get the skinny on why they closed up shop - it wasn’t for lack of business and half my paycheck some weeks, LOL!


253 posted on 04/14/2024 5:47:22 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: metmom

Of all the lettuces, Romaine has the most nutrition. I like the CRUNCH, myself. I make my own ‘salad blends’ at home. Romain is always the base, then I add baby greens, shredded carrots, spinach, sliced radishes, etc.

It takes about 30 minutes of prep work to have a big bag on hand for the week. We have a salad at least once a day. Can’t wait to be growing my own again!


254 posted on 04/14/2024 5:50:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Last year, I bought monarda - a red one and a ‘native’ light purple one for my new medicinal herb garden. Both got powdery mildew (which we talked about - copper spray), but I noticed yesterday they are coming back beautifully and much larger than last year.

I offered them to my SIL and she was hemming/hawing about it, so I am trying to figure out what to do with them. Mom and I talked this morning & I was looking things up .... they do beautifully in large pots on patios & balconies where they have full sun and air movement. Mom has been wanting to put pots of something on the patio and it looks like the bee balm might be our plants! She just loves red and purple, probably her favorite color combo. She’s got some very large pots (the dirt in them is not good) that we could use. I’m going to dump the dirt & take dirt from the herb bed where the monarda are growing. so they will feel like they’re still ‘at home’.

It’s sort of exciting to think about taking something from here and moving it to the new place. Any suggestions? One thing I read (aside from watering instructions) is that they don’t like heavy fertilizer - if you add compost to the pots, that gives them the nutrition they need. I have my compost pile from fall before last so I could mix some of that in with the soil from the bed. The dirt in that bed is ‘new’, topsoil I amended with sand & added some organic fertilizer. I think if I added compost to it, it would help ‘lighten’ it up (the sand helped some) and provide some good nutrition for growing. No problem with full sun - our patio gets sun from mid morning to sunset.


255 posted on 04/14/2024 5:56:35 AM PDT by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: FRiends

Plant a Garden
~ Edgar Guest

If your purse no longer bulges
and you’ve lost your golden treasure,
If times you think you’re lonely
and have hungry grown for pleasure,
Don’t sit by your hearth and grumble,
don’t let mind and spirit harden.
If it’s thrills of joy you wish for
get to work and plant a garden!

If it’s drama that you sigh for,
plant a garden and you’ll get it
You will know the thrill of battle
fighting foes that will beset it.
If you long for entertainment and
for pageantry most glowing,
Plant a garden and this Summer spend
your time with green things growing.


256 posted on 04/14/2024 5:58:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Qiviut

I bought poultry fencing. It’s cheaper than all the fancy hoops systems the garden catalogs sell.

I don’t recall how long we cut the lengths. When I get home from church, I’ll measure them and let you know.

The ones I use cover a 4’ wide raised bed and are about 2’ tall.

I guess doing the math with a diameter of 4 feet, for a semi-circle, it would be a length of just over 6 feet long. Since it comes in rolls, it likes to stay curved, which works out well.

I’ll still measure and let you know though.


257 posted on 04/14/2024 6:00:31 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Qiviut

It’s this style of poultry fencing. The larger rectangular openings and it’s pretty stiff and metal.

https://starkline.com/collections/pest-control


258 posted on 04/14/2024 6:04:07 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Qiviut

Not the plastic stuff, the netting.


259 posted on 04/14/2024 6:05:48 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

Thanks .... what is the black frame?


260 posted on 04/14/2024 6:06:34 AM PDT by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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