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Ukraine destroys Another Russian Warship, Caesar Kunikov, Near Crimea
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Posted on 02/14/2024 2:59:36 AM PST by janetjanet998

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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
“Your “About” flies a Polish flag, so one might suppose you're are a Tusk-EU type.”

Yours flies South Carolina flag, so one might assume you are Linda's Graham new boyfriend.

“this is not a “race” in which I have a “horse.””

Clearly. One can easily verify that just briefly checking your posting history.

41 posted on 02/14/2024 6:23:53 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: DesertRhino
If you are drafting men up you age 60 you have a problem.

Right, the "problem" is Putin's invasion, with the #2 military in the world, of independent Ukraine for territorial annexation.


42 posted on 02/14/2024 6:27:52 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: DesertRhino
"If you are drafting men up you age 60 you have a problem."

Tell that to Vlady.


43 posted on 02/14/2024 6:28:03 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: DesertRhino
Lunacy. Using a 59 year old man as a war slave

Agree, Russia should withdraw from Ukraine, thereby immediately ending the war.

Russian Conscripts in Luhansk Oblast


44 posted on 02/14/2024 6:33:19 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

At this point, Russia must continue to lose the war.
to quit now will mean reparations for the destruction of Ukraine begin immediately.

The threat of reparations means Putin must continue at all costs.


45 posted on 02/14/2024 6:37:08 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: CodeToad
The Ukraine was not a country until recent history and many inside the Ukraine territory are Russians.

Ireland, also, was not a country until recent history. Ukraine may not have been an independent state until recently, nevertheless a Ukrainian nationality has been distinct from the Russian for centuries. As for the Russians inside Ukraine, they are in the minority in every oblast except Crimea. And even Crimea voted for independence from Russia.

46 posted on 02/14/2024 6:38:57 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Grzegorz 246
--- "Clearly. One can easily verify that just briefly checking your posting history. "

"Smart" fellow. Any Freeper can review any other Freeper's posting history. The Robinsons' software is very fine, indeed.

Reviewing you posting history, you barely even mention internal politics regarding Poland, but focus almost exclusively on the Ukraine-Russia war between non-NATO nations.

Repetition for any who would refute the remark: the Ukraine-Russia war between non-NATO nations.

And now, repetition for the enormity of US public debt:

US Debt Clock

Federal Budget Deficit Grew to $2 Trillion in FY 2023 Tax Foundation, 12 October 2023

Say 'hi' to Donald Tusk, please.
47 posted on 02/14/2024 6:42:44 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marktwain

I would say that India is by far the biggest winner when it comes to monetary gain.
They continue to buy Russian oil at as much as a 30% discount to the Brent Sea Crude spot price.
They then refine as much of it as they possibly can to either serve their domestic demand or sell on the international market.

In addition, they can attempt to sell the crude at a discount to the market by either transloading the oil or mixing it with crude from another source.

Lastly, they can just change the BOL on where the crude originated from. This is blatant cheating and is against the sanctions. However, IF you sell it cheap enough, someone will take the chance and buy it.

I saw the exact same thing in the lumber industry twenty years ago when there was a quota on Canadian lumber. People figured out all sorts of ways to cheat the system. When they got caught, they went out of business. However, they had made so much money in a short period of time, that they didn’t care. They just disappeared.

This 30% discount that Russia gave to China and India on their oil is like a license to steal.


48 posted on 02/14/2024 6:52:42 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Petrosius

“Ireland, also, was not a country until recent history. “

Ignorant comment. Ireland was a nation from the 1st century and has remained a people with a language and culture of its own.

You are a liberal indoctrinated idiot to think otherwise.


49 posted on 02/14/2024 7:20:46 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: tlozo

Imagine if Ukraine received enough US military aid to actually win?
= = =

I don’t think the US has enough military aid left.


50 posted on 02/14/2024 7:42:34 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: CodeToad

Country used here is in the sense of an independent state. Yes, Ireland has been a nation separate from the English since ancient times. Likewise, Ukraine has been a nation distinct from Russia with a language and culture of its own for centuries before it gained independence from Russia. If you look again at my comments, you will see that I was using Ireland as an example of how the historical lack of an independent state does not justify the denial of Ukrainian people’s right of independence.


51 posted on 02/14/2024 7:45:58 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: CodeToad

“The Ukraine was not a country until recent history and many inside the Ukraine territory are Russians.”

That’s debatable. Anyway, majority of “old” countries would have collapsed long time ago If they were attacked by Russia and significant part of UA military are actually Russians. So these “arguments” are simply irrelevant.


52 posted on 02/14/2024 7:46:52 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Petrosius

Additionally, Russian Federation was created in December 1991. Before that, both Russia and Ukraine were union republics of the USSR. Putin’s “history” is nothing more than his story.


53 posted on 02/14/2024 7:52:13 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Scrambler Bob
Imagine if Ukraine received enough US military aid to actually win? = = =

I don’t think the US has enough military aid left.

US gave 200 Vietnam era M113's to Ukraine, while having 5,000 in storage. The Iraqi Army received 1,026 M113A2

US gave Ukraine 190 older Bradleys while 2,000 are in storage. Currently the XM30 Mechanized Infantry Combat Vehicle is being developed to replace the Bradley.

US gave Ukraine 31 Abrams tanks, while it has 3,100 in storage.

US gave Ukraine 20 ATACMS, while hundreds of older variants will have to be destroyed due to questions of reliability. The Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) is being currently tested and will replace the ATACMS.

Defense bill would let Air Force retire A-10s, F-15s

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/12/07/defense-bill-would-let-air-force-retire-a-10s-f-15s-but-not-f-22s/

54 posted on 02/14/2024 8:09:32 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: janetjanet998
Meanwhile, on the actual battlefield, Ukraine is feeding what left of its best troops into the Russian meat grinderm in Avdeevka:

GENERAL SYRSKY TAKES CHARGE AND UKRAINE CONTINUES TO FALTER

The leadership shakeup in Kiev, with President Zelensky giving he boot to General Zaluzhny and promoting General Syrsky to the top military slot, has not changed the dire situation the Ukrainian Army faces on the Donbass front. If anything, it has made matters worse. General Syrsky, who is known derisively among Ukrainian troops as “The Butcher,” seems intent on living up to his reputation as a leader who is careless with the lives of this troops.

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Biden’s fruitless effort to wrangle an additional $61 billion dollars out of Congress to send to Ukraine will not change Ukraine’s tactical disadvantage. Ukraine lacks the critical resource required to sustain the war — a well-trained cadre of soldiers. Russia’s successful strike on Selidovo is a brutal reminder that anytime Ukraine assembles a large group of soldiers (or trainees) they can be hit and decimated.

Syrsky is reported to be sending more of his best troops towards Avdeevka. If true, he is living up to his reputation as “General Butcher.” Those soldiers are likely to chewed up by the Russian grinding offensive. And the death of every experienced soldier puts Ukraine further into a hole that it cannot climb out of.

55 posted on 02/14/2024 8:40:14 AM PST by Kazan
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To: tlozo

I was mainly commenting on what’s being reported as the average age.....just facts per some venues.

Regardless, it’s no longer 27 as the lower age.....

https://visitukraine.today/blog/1974/conscription-age-cut-to-25-in-ukraine-what-will-change-and-how-will-it-affect-mobilisation


56 posted on 02/14/2024 8:55:41 AM PST by Gaffer (Ok. November is soon approaching and we'll see how steadfast Biden's UKR distraction holds.)
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To: janetjanet998

Yes, there seems to be a lot of success with drones for Ukraine. Almost as much as the FOUR/FIVE Russian warships sunk in the same videos (if you count by the number of different jubilant revelers posting the SAME story in different threads.)


57 posted on 02/14/2024 8:59:21 AM PST by Gaffer (Ok. November is soon approaching and we'll see how steadfast Biden's UKR distraction holds.)
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To: dforest

Remarkable how all that “I stand with Ukraine’’ bs has disappeared.

Man everybody was jumping on the bandwagon two years ago.

I said from the begging these two were a couple of scorpions in a bottle. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

Another go round in an ancient Eastern European blood feud 9 out of 10 Americans never had heard about or even knew there was a country called Ukraine until February of 20022.


58 posted on 02/14/2024 9:09:50 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“you barely even mention internal politics regarding Poland”

Perhaps because discussing those issues with myself wouldn’t be very logical ?

“And now, repetition for the enormity of US public debt:”

The US share in total aid to Ukraine is barely 30% and the aid to Ukraine is not even in top 100 reasons behind the US debt. The Kacaps are basically copy-pasting their cold war disinformation strategy and you dudes are the Jane Fondas of our times.

“Say ‘hi’ to Donald Tusk, please.”

Say hi to Linda.

BTW did you vote for Linda :) ?


59 posted on 02/17/2024 6:42:14 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
--- "BTW did you vote for Linda :) ?"

Thanks for asking, new citizen of Poland. My wife and I will both be voting for President Trump, and as conservative a set of other choices as possible.

Of course, you know that Graham isn't up for election again for many years. South Carolina is sadly stuck with him awhile, just like Poland is sadly stuck with Donald Tusk for a while.

Zippedy Duda!

60 posted on 02/17/2024 6:55:30 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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