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To: Petrosius

Off the top of my head I’d suggest the top heavyweights in the political development/ history of the west for good or for ill would be Cyrus, Alexander, Augustus, Constantine, Charlemagne, Locke/Montesque, Marx, and Hitler. Other nominees?


11 posted on 02/06/2024 12:20:48 PM PST by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/22/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: j.havenfarm

Churchill.


17 posted on 02/06/2024 1:49:54 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: j.havenfarm

no founding fathers or adam smith...


18 posted on 02/06/2024 3:02:34 PM PST by reed13k
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To: j.havenfarm

Marx would be little remembered without the opportunist Lenin.

Washington is often taken for granted but Lord was he pivotal.

For various reasons I would add Augustine and then Erasmus/Luther combined.


19 posted on 02/06/2024 3:09:21 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: j.havenfarm
"Off the top of my head I’d suggest the top heavyweights in the political development/ history of the west for good or for ill would be..."

...Johannes Gutenberg. While not a political animal himself (that I'm aware of), the impact of his printing press in post-Renaissance politics is immeasurable. Sort of like the internet, it allowed for the proliferation and projection of thoughts and ideas in a manner that was wholly unprecedented at the time.

24 posted on 02/06/2024 3:42:53 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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