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Trial Of Mann v. Steyn, Part III: More On Damages; Simberg And Steyn's First Witness
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 2 Feb, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 02/03/2024 6:02:56 AM PST by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 02/03/2024 6:02:56 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

This case is being tried in DC so don’t expect truth to matter much.


2 posted on 02/03/2024 6:03:06 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: StAntKnee

Manhattan Contrarian ping


3 posted on 02/03/2024 6:03:40 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

Why is Steyn being allowed a defense. I thought if it was a conservative you just found for the other side and moved to damages agains with no defense allowed.


4 posted on 02/03/2024 6:04:40 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Because the left had no idea that they’d look so bad.


5 posted on 02/03/2024 6:54:20 AM PST by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: Fai Mao

Mann left PSU and is now at Penn, IIRC.

Hope Penn’s donors are paying attention.


6 posted on 02/03/2024 6:58:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: MtnClimber

I believe Mann “teaches” at Penn State, as opposed to UPenn.


7 posted on 02/03/2024 7:07:56 AM PST by twister881
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To: MtnClimber

Ping


8 posted on 02/03/2024 7:11:43 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: MtnClimber
Mark Steyn's speech to the Heartland Institute about this case is nearly nine years old, but is still the best and funniest exposure of the fraud who is Michael Mann:

https://youtu.be/6bARjABDqok?si=BXlYPm2RefG2vfb1

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9 posted on 02/03/2024 7:15:43 AM PST by twister881
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To: MtnClimber

True, but that doesn’t change the fact that Mann is a liar and lousy scientist who phony-facted data to support his bogus claims and that’s how he will be remembered after they all are proven to be bullshite through the lens of history.


10 posted on 02/03/2024 7:32:04 AM PST by bigbob
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To: MtnClimber

If pointing out error or willful fraud in a scientific paper is “defamation”, then science is dead.

The whole point of open science is to do just that: anyone who has either written a paper or defended a dissertation has been through it. The criticism is open and hostile and is supposed to be.

Mann can’t take the heat so he runs to a court. How about refute Steyn’s comments with your own results? Nope, can’t do that. The results don’t support it. Oops.


11 posted on 02/03/2024 7:32:18 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: bigbob

Our descendants huddling in caves and hunting game across a frozen tundra with stone weapons will not recall the folly of “global warming.”


12 posted on 02/03/2024 7:35:47 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole. You had so much to offer, why didya offer your sou?)
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To: Regulator
That would all be fine except for the growth in the last couple of years of the idea that "THE SCIENCE" is settled and no longer open to challenge. It's a dangerous doctrine and if allowed to prevail will kill the spirit of free inquiry necessary for science to advance.

As a scientist, the first time I heard the phrase "listen to the science" it was like listening to the screetch of chalk on a blackboard. You never get used to it. That the entire scientific establishment was not in open rebellion tells you how diseased the scientific establishment is.

13 posted on 02/03/2024 7:55:21 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: twister881

My bad, Mann switched from Penn State to UPenn in 2022, where he is polluting the soft, mushy minds of a new generation of young students with his thoroughly fraudulent and fabricated climate “research.”


14 posted on 02/03/2024 7:58:12 AM PST by twister881
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To: Regulator

Spot on!

As a scientist, Mann was supposed to question his own work and try to disprove his theory.


15 posted on 02/03/2024 8:01:10 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: AndyJackson

All true. Scientists remain silent, because if they oppose the woke, false orthodoxy, they won’t receive any juicy research grants from the government, which often are the lifeblood of their careers.
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It is worth noting that not a single scientific organization or individual filed an amicus brief for Mann in his complaint against Steyn. That is because they all know that Mann’s climate hockey stick is phony, having been constructed with manipulated and falsified data.


16 posted on 02/03/2024 8:10:17 AM PST by twister881
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To: MV=PY

Agree. The problem today is that the Left have turned scientific method on its head: conclusions first, hypothesis later.
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It’s the basic nature of Leftists that “believing is seeing,” instead of the proper “seeing is believing.” It comes from convincing themselves they are so wonderfully bright, and that if they simply think something is true, then it must be.


17 posted on 02/03/2024 8:21:59 AM PST by twister881
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To: MtnClimber

I would pay to be in that court room, very entertaining!


18 posted on 02/03/2024 8:34:26 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: AndyJackson

Yeah. We’re back to dogma and any questioning is Heresy.

Next up, the return of the Papal Inquisition! Off with their heads, they’re anti-warmist heretics!


19 posted on 02/03/2024 8:36:32 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: dadfly

Excellent condensation of Dr. Wyner’s testimony in the last two paragraphs.


20 posted on 02/03/2024 10:26:33 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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