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Dr Strangelove at 60: is this still the greatest big-screen satire?
The Guardian ^ | 01/29/2024 | Scott Tobias

Posted on 01/29/2024 11:02:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Stanley Kubrick’s sharp and persuasive comedy about nuclear war remains a hilarious act of provocation

Sixty years ago, Columbia Pictures released the first of two black-and-white movies with the exact same premise: what if American planes with hydrogen bombs were inadvertently ordered to drop their payload on targets in the Soviet Union, potentially triggering an all-out nuclear war that wipe out humanity? The Cuban missile crisis had pushed the superpowers to the brink of conflict less than two years earlier, and film-makers were unusually eager to face their cold war nightmares head on.

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On balance, Kubrick’s message is more persuasive. Dr Strangelove remains the greatest of movie satires for a host of reasons, not least that it hews so closely to the real-life absurdities of the cold war, with two saber-rattling superpowers escalating an arms race that could only end in mutual annihilation. There’s absolutely no question, for example, that the top military and political brass have gamed out the catastrophic loss of life in a nuclear conflict, just as they do in the war room here. Perhaps they would even nod sagely at the distinction between 20 million people dead v 150 million people dead. All Kubrick and his co-writers, Terry Southern and Peter George, have to add is a wry punchline: “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed.”

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To: Yo-Yo

I read where it was originally a “good weekend in Dallas” but got changed due to the JFK assassination.


61 posted on 01/29/2024 12:59:17 PM PST by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: bravo whiskey
I am currently doing a class on CHERNOBYL.

Are you showing the miniseries? It combines a lot of characters and plays loose with some of the facts, but the feel and air of incompetence in its depiction of the late Soviet era is authentic.

62 posted on 01/29/2024 1:07:43 PM PST by Rinnwald
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To: cgbg

In that case, it was a great success. I suppose Kubrick wanted us to find space boring as well. He succeeded with 2001.


63 posted on 01/29/2024 1:07:53 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: D_Idaho

Up until the Cuban Missile Crisis there was serious talk of fighting, winning and surviving a nuclear war with Russia. After having our noses rubbed in the reality of what just almost happened in the CMC, fighting WWIII became the subject of dark comedy. That was the case until the powers that be in DC decided now was the time to attack Russia. Now the maniacs in the War Room tell us we won’t even get our hair mussed.


64 posted on 01/29/2024 1:09:13 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Ge0ffrey

C’mon man.

He warned us about the “mine shaft gap”.

Lol.


65 posted on 01/29/2024 1:10:05 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
I think that film has more memorable lines than any.

I think I would go with "The Godfather", and that wasn't even a comedy or satire.
66 posted on 01/29/2024 1:10:19 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: hardspunned

Dr. Strangelove is perfect for today’s times.

Every young person should watch it—even the “preverts”.

;-)


67 posted on 01/29/2024 1:11:15 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: dfwgator
Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?

She only passed away a few years ago at 103. Wonderful, clear voice.
68 posted on 01/29/2024 1:15:13 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Responsibility2nd

Are you invoking God?


69 posted on 01/29/2024 1:15:21 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: cgbg

Well I... I would hate to have to decide.. who stays up and.. who goes down.

Strangelove:

Well, that would not be necessary Mr. President. It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Slams down left fist. Right arm rises in stiff Nazi salute. Arrrrr! Restrains right arm with left. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

Muffley:

But look here doctor, wouldn’t this nucleus of survivors be so grief stricken and anguished that they’d, well, envy the dead and not want to go on living?

Strangelove:

No sir... Right arm rolls his wheelchair backwards. Excuse me. Struggles with wayward right arm, ultimately subduing it with a beating from his left.

Also when... when they go down into the mine everyone would still be alive. There would be no shocking memories, and the prevailing emotion will be one of nostalgia for those left behind, combined with a spirit of bold curiosity for the adventure ahead! Ahhhh! Right are reflexes into Nazi salute. He pulls it back into his lap and beats it again. Gloved hand attempts to strangle him.

Turgidson:

Doctor, you mentioned the ration of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn’t that necessitate the abandonment of the so called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

Strangelove:

Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

DeSadeski:

I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

Strangelove:

Thank you, sir.


70 posted on 01/29/2024 1:17:12 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Are you invoking God?

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Sure. Because God was with those brave astronauts as they traveled to the moon and back.


71 posted on 01/29/2024 1:18:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yup—one of the best scenes ever.

It nails the self-appointed “elites” to the wall.


72 posted on 01/29/2024 1:19:42 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Sure. Because God was with those brave astronauts as they traveled to the moon and back.

Our astronauts are indeed brave, but they never went to the moon. The furthest we’ve sent men up is around 400 miles because of the Radiation belts. That’s a little short of the 238,000 miles to the moon, and 238,000 miles back.
73 posted on 01/29/2024 1:24:49 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Da Coyote

I am with you, FRiend.

I’m with you.


74 posted on 01/29/2024 1:38:34 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

I can’t imagine an Englishman like Peter Sellers playing a Texas cowboy. Slim Pickens, from Kingsburg, in California’s San Joaquin Valley and the son of a Texan, was a perfect fit.


75 posted on 01/29/2024 1:39:30 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Leaning Right

Gun geek sez “Hey, there’s no bayonet lug!”


76 posted on 01/29/2024 1:44:31 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: bravo whiskey
I am planning an 8 week class on the early pre ICBM nuclear programs and deterrents of the CCCP and the USA. I intend to show FAIL SAFE, DR STRANGELOVE, one of the ON THE BEACH probably the first one and maybe a 4th movie TBD. anyone have suggestions?

I am currently doing a class on CHERNOBYL.

I was thinking about it a few hours ago and for a fleeting moment thought of one but now it's gone.   I'll try to remember it.

But here is the suggestion. I long ago subscribed to The Criterion Channel on ROKU.   This month they presented a bundled collection called Postapocalyptic Sci-Fi.   Amung the Climate Catastrophe, Celestial Threats and Mad Max/Escape from New York/Italian Knock-offs, the have four that you may want to review.

From the UK, "Threads" and "The Day the Earth Caught Fire", then from Hollywood, "Panic in the Year Zero" (Ray Milland) and "Testament" (with William Devane).

I haven't watched any of the four but now I plan to just because you caused me look for them.

77 posted on 01/29/2024 1:46:47 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: cgbg

Biden’s War Room maniacs are scarier than President Muffley’s War Room maniacs were.


78 posted on 01/29/2024 1:48:08 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Demiurge2

The CRM-114 made an appearance as the overloading amp Doc Brown built.


79 posted on 01/29/2024 1:48:29 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: rlmorel
And I know a lot of military/ex-military folks who feel as I do!

If a person was in Strategic Air Command it was almost mandatory for Dr. Strangelove to be on of your top five movies.

I saw the movie when I was in Junior High School and it was instantly one of my favorites.

80 posted on 01/29/2024 1:49:38 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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