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Porch pirates a 'daily' problem in Montreal West
montreal.ctvnews.ca ^ | January 6, 2024 | Olivia O'Malley

Posted on 01/16/2024 9:41:22 AM PST by grundle

Montreal West is known for its large porches, but around the holidays, those porches are a big target for thieves or "porch pirates(opens in a new tab)."

"It's something we deal with on a daily basis," said Montreal West councillor responsible for public security Lauren Small-Pennefather.

Small-Pennefather said packages are stolen from homes regularly, and while there are bylaws and police officers in the community who know about the problem, she said porch pirates are getting smarter.

"You have people that are following the vehicles, and when they see a parcel that's dropped off, they then go and take the parcel if nobody comes to the door to retrieve the parcel," she said.

A recent FedEx survey found that porch thefts are on the rise in Canada(opens in a new tab). According to the survey, one in four Canadians have had a package stolen, and as more people install porch security cameras, more acts of porch piracy are being caught on video.

Provincial police (SQ) are urging Quebecers not to post the clips online because they say there could be a case for defamation.

"You cannot post the images yourself because you have to remember, in Canada, we have a presumption of innocence and posting that picture could be a violation of private life," said SQ communications officer Lt. Benoit Richard.

Instead, Richard said to call 911 if anything was stolen.

"If you get some proof that somebody might have stolen something, call the police, give that proof to the police," he said. "We'll do the investigation, bring that person to justice and file some charges."

To avoid getting to that point, Small-Pennefather recommended some precautions to take.

"One is that you can actually ask to have a signature for the parcel, which means they cannot leave it at your door," she said. "You can also make arrangements with the carrier to pick it up from the depot."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: canada; crime; shipping; theft
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1 posted on 01/16/2024 9:41:22 AM PST by grundle
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Why not just make porch piracy legal. Problem solved.


2 posted on 01/16/2024 9:46:12 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: grundle

Personal income tax

is a violation of private life.


3 posted on 01/16/2024 9:47:44 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: grundle

Seems like there could be stings set up, though, to catch people who follow delivery trucks to the porches.


4 posted on 01/16/2024 9:47:46 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: grundle

Hmm, when a government protects criminals instead of victims it’s usually because the lawless are from a politically protected minority.


5 posted on 01/16/2024 9:48:27 AM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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To: grundle

“You cannot post the images yourself because you have to remember, in Canada, we have a presumption of innocence and posting that picture could be a violation of private life,”...If a thief is out in public on someone else’s property, stealing someone else’s property, I think they’ve forfeited the right to a “private” life. What a country Fidel Jr and his like have created.


6 posted on 01/16/2024 9:49:25 AM PST by GMThrust
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To: grundle

I’m sure they wouldn’t mind if our replacements pirated their pensions.


7 posted on 01/16/2024 9:50:22 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: grundle

So much for “maintain the right” motto of the RCMP.


8 posted on 01/16/2024 9:50:51 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: grundle

Quick, someone build a really big mousetrap.


9 posted on 01/16/2024 9:51:21 AM PST by aculeus (Just Call Him "No Border" Biden)
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To: grundle

Would it be ok to post images of porch pirates if you get a signed release from them? Just asking for a friend (in Canada).


10 posted on 01/16/2024 9:51:39 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, LGBTQs, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: grundle

I’ll put my money on people with baseball bats over the police any day.

Then again, that requires some intestinal fortitude and cajones...


11 posted on 01/16/2024 9:53:08 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: grundle

There are now available large boxes with locks intended for package dropoffs. They sit on the porch, probably attached, to thwart porch pirates.


12 posted on 01/16/2024 9:54:11 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: grundle

Can’t post photos, so I guess planting Claymores in the bushes is out, too? Or wiring up packages to deliver a killing jolt to criminals?


13 posted on 01/16/2024 9:57:48 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: JimRed

911? I’m worried. Someone stole the pit bull I ordered from PetCo. The dog food I ordered was shipped in a separate package, so the poor little rascal is probably hangry by now.


14 posted on 01/16/2024 10:03:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: Brian Griffin
>Personal income tax is a violation of private life.

The method the IRS uses to collect income tax is blatantly unconstitutional since you can be criminally charged for information on your return, even though , such as not filing a "voluntary" return is a civil violation which is not protected by the Fifth Amendment.

The further you go down that rabbit hole and see all of twisted logic required to claim that the IRS a private corporation for the purposes of evading the Fifth Amendment while simultaneously being an agency of the Federal Government for the purposes of meeting the enumerated powers clause, the more you realize lawyers are nothing more than a bunch of egotistical psychopaths who think they can create their own "Reality Distortion Field" to justify whatever they feel like.

15 posted on 01/16/2024 10:08:02 AM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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To: grundle
Provincial police (SQ) are urging Quebecers not to post the clips online because they say there could be a case for defamation.

"You cannot post the images yourself because you have to remember, in Canada, we have a presumption of innocence and posting that picture could be a violation of private life," said SQ communications officer Lt. Benoit Richard.

These people are on video taking things that don't belong to them, and the logic of the police is that they will go after the people posting the videos of these thieves for privacy issues? Logic doesn't appear to factor in to this line of thought.

There is still the presumption of innocence. Posting a video does not remove the presumption, but it sure can refute it.

16 posted on 01/16/2024 10:08:17 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: grundle
The proper punishment for piracy:
17 posted on 01/16/2024 10:14:31 AM PST by sevlex
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To: JimRed

Bot Smart guns [near range] on full auto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QcfZGDvHU8


18 posted on 01/16/2024 10:20:28 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: grundle

Great movie. Secondhand Lions.


19 posted on 01/16/2024 10:26:14 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: grundle

If the homeowner happens to see the porch pirate committing the piracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhIKYuHJJsE

but if it comes down to it....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_0I8BUnmWQ


20 posted on 01/16/2024 10:29:17 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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