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Back before Kalifornia Governor Grey Davis was recalled, Governor Davis 'mandated' that 10% of all cars sold in Kalifornia be electric. They put charging stations at carpool lots and other areas. Toward the end of the year it became obvious that not enough EVs were purchased to make the magic 10%. So......the Governor had the State purchase just enough to reach the 10%.

Fast forward to today, there is still no 'market' for EVs without subsidies (taxpayer dollars). I would wager that many of the EV buyers have 2+ vehicles, and $$$ to install their own home chargers. They have at least one gasoline-powered vehicle that takes 4-5 minutes to 'charge.'

1 posted on 12/20/2023 9:07:57 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

There are Buick dealers?


2 posted on 12/20/2023 9:10:49 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Not everyone wants to pay twice the price for half the car.


5 posted on 12/20/2023 9:19:20 PM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

This is all welcomed by government. There will be less places selling cars, both ev vehicles and gas vehicles. They want this. They want people to not have private transportation.

All of this has that as a main goal.


6 posted on 12/20/2023 9:22:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

If you are a wealthy elite you virtue signal by buying a Tesla. If you are a complete fool you buy a Ford or GM EV.


10 posted on 12/20/2023 9:43:19 PM PST by allendale
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

In my city with 25,000 people, I could count on one hand how many electric cars I’ve seen in this town. There are so few, they had to pull out the Chargers.


11 posted on 12/20/2023 9:45:27 PM PST by roving
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Wouldn’t you really rather have a buy-out?


12 posted on 12/20/2023 9:56:00 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Its like the Soviet Union, but in reverse

People wanted their crappy, government-mandated car, but had to wait 8 years to get one due to lack of supply

In America, government is paying to over-produce crappy, government-mandated cars, but no one wants them.


13 posted on 12/20/2023 9:56:29 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Joetato says: “Well Damn Them! We’ll RAM them down their throats! We’ll show them! They’ll go all EV or we’ll put them out of business. Jerome! Go print another couple trillion!”


15 posted on 12/20/2023 10:02:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Some dealers are somewhat smart


17 posted on 12/20/2023 10:33:41 PM PST by inchworm (al )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

I see way more Teslas on the road than Buicks.


18 posted on 12/20/2023 11:07:39 PM PST by POWG
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

NEW 2024 BUICK ENVISTA
FWD 4dr Preferred
VIN KL47LAE2XRB045738
STOCK NUMBER N10617

$25,074

20 posted on 12/20/2023 11:40:07 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Well, I own a Tesla, and there’s no chance I’d own any Buick manufactured after 1955…


24 posted on 12/21/2023 2:42:12 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

“ They have at least one gasoline-powered vehicle that takes 4-5 minutes to ‘charge”

I was sitting at the stoplight yesterday behind a big diesel dually with a bumper sticker on the back window “600 mile range 3 minute charge”


25 posted on 12/21/2023 2:46:01 AM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

This may have less to do with EVs and more to do with dealers who realize that Buick is a dying brand that may not be around long enough for the investment in new equipment to pay off.


28 posted on 12/21/2023 4:11:29 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

I have two of them. I live in Florida. I love these cars. But take them north in freezing weather, they lose a big amount of range per charge. If you just commute 100 miles a day, in cold climate, not a problem. But more than 100, you get range issues. You can set the battery warm prior to driving, and that helps.

I can see the battery range drop now on cold nights, when below 50 degrees. Maybe 10 percent. Most of it is lost in creating the cabin heat for passengers. But you can warm it up before leaving the garage, interior and battery, while its plugged in.

When I get an impatient driver behind me, tailgating, I switch the car into “sport mode”, and punch the accelerator. It takes off like a rocket. These cars are extremely fast. Very dangerous for a teen with little driving experience.

These cars have between 250 to 500 horsepower, with center of gravity near wheel level. Instantaneous power slams into wheels. A new driving experience.


37 posted on 12/21/2023 5:20:02 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

GM, Ford, and Chrysler for historic reasons have way too many dealerships. They have been trying to thin the ranks for years.

They only sold 103,468 Buicks in 2022. Sales are up somewhat this year. They might do around 160,000.

Locally, all the Buick dealers are also GMC.


39 posted on 12/21/2023 5:25:51 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

My son recently leased a Hyundai EV and while he loves the gadgetry, I question just how practical it I really is as an everyday vehicle. His older home would require a substantial upgrade of the electrical service panel to accommodate a home charger in addition to the $2,500 cost of the charger itself. He spends 20+ minutes on his drive to work at a public charger and then charges his EV at work. A road trip to his wife’s family cabin requires a level of planning that rivals D-Day leapfrogging from charger to charger hoping that the charger is operational and not experiencing long lines of others awaiting their charge. Our winter has so far been unseasonably warm, but in Minnesota extended periods of below zero weather are common so how he will fare with an EV in those temperatures is yet to be seen. Most car buyers would not be willing to put up with the bother of an owning an EV especially at the prices being charged. Buying a used EV would be a crap shoot. Older EV batteries have diminished charge capacity and the cost of replacing a battery likely exceeds the value of the vehicle.


49 posted on 12/21/2023 9:38:00 AM PST by The Great RJ ( )
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