Posted on 12/14/2023 1:52:39 AM PST by nikos1121
SCOTUS has the ability, they are the only ones, to reset this whole mess, and restore the dignity to the Presidency and Dept of Justice.
Take the name TRUMP out of the lawsuits, and it would be easy to see that the prosecutions are an injustice to this man, because, with ANY other defendant, all cases would be thrown out long ago.
In short, the SCOTUS alone can bring common sense to all the arguments and issues being raised here.
A 9-0 ruling to throw out all these ridiculous lawsuits against Trump and others, would go far to unite the country.
If it comes back 5 to 4, or even 6 to 3 a win for Trump, it won’t put this thing to rest but initiate further resentment of our system from both sides.
But, Heaven forbid we lose 5 to 4, or worse yet 6 to 4, then this country is doomed, as it will open up a pandora’s box of lawsuits from “our side against their side”, and give further incentives to the left-wing radicals in media, DOJ, and Congress, among other entities to go after Trump and other conservatives.
Most of all, it will destroy the balance of power in the third wing of our government probably forever. Any future or even past presidency can now be sued for just about anything, but also in civil court?
Think about that in the context of what Americans, since our founding have seen and endured. We need all three equal branches of government.
Surely, there is common sense somewhere in the system to put us back to a time when we had respect for one another, and where we accepted vote outcomes, good or bad, but when we also had the right to voice a complaint about the integrity of the elections, without facing imprisonment.
There was no Trump-induced insurrection, everyone knows that.
The J-6 demonstration was mostly peaceful, conducted mostly by Peaceful God-fearing Americans. Everyone knows that.
Dozens if not a couple hundred, FBI and other agents intentionally instigated some to not be peaceful. Everyone with any common sense knows that too.
For all we know, the people who rioted and destroyed property could have been Antifa or BLM or even planted agents.
The 44,000 hours of J-6 video have been released, BUT THE FACES OF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE BEING BLURRED OUT? WHY?
Every one of the lawsuits against Trump is politically motivated. Everyone knows that, and people like Liz Cheney and this guy Kinsinger are mentally ill for all we know.
Let us pray that the SCOTUS puts this whole mess to rest with a strong ruling on the side of what is fair and right for all Americans and future presidents.
Are you saying that if our next president is Biden there is still hope that one day a Republican will be elected president? If so, you haven’t been paying attention.
Oh, yeah - you’re absolutely right. We should just give up and rally to the communist flag.
Two choices; fight or fold. If you have an ounce of manhood remaining, you’ll pick fight as your only real choice.
If not, the Demos treat their prisoners well (sort of).
Thought about it. This country cannot be united. It can’t be united because unchecked immigration and illegal entry by the third world won’t let it ‘unite.’
This country has become so divided by special interest and victim groups it isn’t funny. Even the WH has to spend an inordinate amount of time and effort just to placate and appease this faction or other to keep them from dominating the news cycles with their carefully choreographed, limited protests. Special interest and victim groups outweigh the greater-numbered conventional American interests by far.
Interesting thread, nikos. Funny, I was thinking along these lines the other day - a 9/0 vote would settle it, and take the wind out of leftist sails at the same time. Having said that, I doubt it would happen.
Another aspect to consider is that this coup does not follow the SCOTUS. Didn’t SCOTUS rule that cancelling student loans was unconstitutional? Yet Biden went full steam ahead. I think these people will force anything they want upon America unless they are soundly put in their place.
A country that does not unite around a certain theme, be it patriotism, faith, freedom, etc. cannot stand. That’s why the left always removes as much of God as they can, right off the hop.
A large population must either rule themselves, being united for the same good purpose, or be ruled. It’s that simple.
Not saying I look forward to it, just that I've resigned myself to it happening. With each passing day people get more and more divided. It's just a matter of time.
Barnes who has a big libertarian streak opposes big bail (says this worked strongly against J6ers as well) and opposes most civil rights infringements. Most R-appointed judges come from federal prosecutor ranks, who see no problem with violating civil rights.
Zen Master really knows how the courts schedule things. He says June. When you say “hearings,” I assume you mean trial/testimony? That’s correct.
There is no sense doing anything if the Supes are going to blow it all up, or even if they severely limit the types of questions or charges that can be used.
To me proof that the court is a complete liberal/anarchic disaster is that they have absolutely no problem doing something absolutely contrary to the spirit and letter of the Constitution, like socializing medicine.
Once they have done something like that, there is no way to redeem the SCOTUS.
Your endorsement of Roberts as someone who "feels compelled to even out the verdicts" is lost on me. To me, he is clearly compromised, and his decisions, like others on the SCOTUS, are so arbitrary and illogical that it is always a guessing game how he will rule. For that matter, it is a total tossup on how the SCOTUS will rule on almost every decision.
I ask you, should it be a complete tossup on how the SCOTUS should rule for every case? What about Kelo v. City of New London? WTH is going on when the pretense of eminent domain is used to expropriate one citizen's property and give it to another? Such a perversion of eminent domain.
You really don't have to be a lawyer to see that that is a bad, bad, ridiculous decision. Even a seventh grader can see it.
So whenever we get the runup to a SCOTUS, everyone gets nausea, because no one has ANY idea on how these clowns are going to rule. Maybe Thomas and Alito are a little better. But as a whole they are all vain, self-important, America-hating, Constitution-hating, clowns. So arbitrary and crazy when it comes to the law that rock/paper/scissors would be a better way to deal with SCOTUS decisions.
I AGREE WITH you. In my opinion, Roberts tries to please both sides. He is unpredictable, when above all else the SCOTUS should be predictable.
If they rule against Trump, and say that he has no immunity, then why do we even need a working government, because they will have damaged the balance of power.
I fully expect the three liberals will rule with what will be best for the left NOW.
Perhaps, maybe we can eeek out a win 5 to 4.
I think anyone with common sense should see this as cut and dried, with a 9-0 ruling in favor of giving the president immunity.
But, like you say, these people are unpredictable
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