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To: RandFan
‘Unbelievable’

You got that right.

There is no possible physical mechanism for pathogen-specific T cells, B cells, and antibodies created during an innate immune response to have any effect on cancer.

Just in case someone believes that mRNA, present in every cell in the body, can accelerate cancer--no, it can't.

Furthermore, doesn't it occur to anyone that if a single viral mRNA used for a vaccine allegedly has all of these scary effects, then the virus must be orders of magnitude worse?

Not only does the virus contain the spike gene and protein, it contains an RNA genome containing all viral genes and 28 other viral proteins. Those 28 non-spike proteins take over function of the cell and force it to become a virus factory, producing virus RNA genome, mRNA, and proteins to make new viruses. A virus infects tens of millions, maybe billions of cells in the body. And when those cells have produced thousands of new viruses (assembled from the genome and proteins, they burst open and die. When cells burst open, the injury is just as real and physical as a cut or burn injury.

I'd be a lot more concerned about the effects of a virus infection than about the temporary presence of a vaccine.

Why worry about foreign mRNAs entering the body, anyway? The food you eat is full of mRNA. So are the bacteria, viruses, fungi, and archaea that all live in your body. And your body, too, is full of mRNA. Don't be afraid of mRNA--it is literally everywhere and life is not possible without it.

15 posted on 12/04/2023 5:38:44 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom

>Why worry about foreign mRNAs entering the body, anyway? The food you eat is full of mRNA. So are the bacteria, viruses, fungi, and archaea that all live in your body. And your body, too, is full of mRNA. Don’t be afraid of mRNA—it is literally everywhere and life is not possible without it.

The problem is the tiny plasmid DNA segments that can enter your cells and nuclei thanks to the lipid transfer


18 posted on 12/04/2023 5:44:10 AM PST by struggle
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To: exDemMom

i see the

witch of the bait and switch

has rode her broom of con back into our presence.

which mRNA are you referring to ?

the natural mnra of our bofues

or

the ModifiedRNA

of our bigpharmas ?

spit.

evil like you are why my brother is dying.

may you burn in hell.


19 posted on 12/04/2023 5:44:38 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: exDemMom
mRNA: Vaccine or Gene Therapy? The Safety Regulatory Issues
26 posted on 12/04/2023 5:50:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: exDemMom

Here you go again, pretending you know more than a nation’s leading oncologist.

Maybe what you meant to convey was that *you* don’t understand how it could work.


44 posted on 12/04/2023 6:06:03 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions - 🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: exDemMom

Random Modified RNA specially designed to enter any cell via a LNP and produce bio active proteins vs food consumption or gut biome are two very different thing. When the first happen (slightly more natural) via bacteria or viral infection, the body mounts an immune response. With the Vax, the modified RNA is lasting too long spitting our spike that the body gives up trying to kill it since it’s everywhere, still being generated and turns to an IGG4 response. Similar to your body’s response to an allergen. Meanwhile the spike, detectable up to 6-8 months later is causing damage. Add in dna (plasmid and SV40) that shouldn’t be there, now you have something that takes long term testing to really understand what’s going on internally.

One thing is clear, you never ever treat pregnant women or those who will soon be without very specific safety testing. Not this time - everyone gets it. There was not a single group that was told it wasn’t recommended for them. That’s a giant red flag that testing was minimal and politics/greed were at play.

You keep stating how this basic Vax couldn’t be or cause negative results. You have been educated more than once but yet you refuse to learn.


56 posted on 12/04/2023 6:43:52 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored )
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To: exDemMom; ransomnote; bitt; Jane Long; Melian; fireman15; george76; SeekAndFind; wjcsux

There are several physical mechanisms being discussed.

The most relevant seems to be the creation of IgG4 over IgG3 among the multiply jabbed; further, studies done in mouse models independent of the jabs and if COVID, show that excess IgG4 makes tumors larger/more aggressive.

The link is at home and I’m at work, so use your srlf-proclaimed expert search skills to find it.

Dingbat.


61 posted on 12/04/2023 7:14:28 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
There is no possible physical mechanism for pathogen-specific T cells, B cells, and antibodies created during an innate immune response to have any effect on cancer.

Gee, I thought vaccinations, and clot-shots, affected the adaptive immune response. Why are you babbling about the innate immune response, if not to try to fool people? Dingbat. Troll.

69 posted on 12/04/2023 7:41:23 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom

There she is now, the Sleeper Freeper who’s account was dormant for 6 years, reactivated last month to gaslight Freepers.


72 posted on 12/04/2023 7:49:48 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Vivek for VP!!!!)
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To: exDemMom

The mRNA created for the vaccine was manipulated to effect the final spike protein to remain longer in a conformation to create a greater antigenic presence. See “the tiny tweak”...chemical and engineering news website.
The LNP used to get the mRNA into the cells gets them into just about all the cells it can encounter. The virus could get into cells which has the ACE2 receptor. (There are many cells which have the ACE2 receptor...but not all).
So any argument which posits that the mRNA vaccine is just mimicking “real life” processes is misleading. It was designed to do a certain task without full exploration of it’s myriad biochemical pathways and effects. As with any drug new side effects and toxicities emerge after greater use. See Keppra (and a few other) antiepileptics and severe skin lesions(DRESS)


87 posted on 12/04/2023 8:59:19 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: exDemMom

“There is no possible physical mechanism “


That sounds like what the colleagues of Dr Ignaz Semmelweis said to ostracize him.
You could just be honest, and say that you don’t believe the story. But you say it is UNpossible.
You are like Job’s comforters. YOU were there when God created everything? YOU are the source of all wisdom?
LOL and keep on shilling for the poison sellers.


90 posted on 12/04/2023 9:26:45 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: exDemMom

You have been educated multiple times over the last year yet on every thread you pull a Dougie Duke and pretend none of this is real. Are you paid, on denial or have you caused a love one’s death by demanding the Vax and now refuse to face the reality? It’s one of the three (paid, guilty or insane)? You throw out denials, posters try to educate, you never respond the repeat the insanity on new articles about the topic.

What’s up? Kill a spouse with irrational fear or was it a grandchild?


100 posted on 12/04/2023 8:22:59 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored )
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To: exDemMom; ransomnote; bitt; CheshireTheCat

101 posted on 12/05/2023 4:49:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom

104 posted on 12/06/2023 6:49:15 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom

I’ve seen you try to discredit Dr. McCullough, who has much more experience and knowledge on this topic than you and who has put his livelihood on the line to take a principled stand against these jabs.

Now you seem to be claiming that you are more informed than a leading oncologist and immunologist who is also taking a position that could harm his career.

What is your expertise? Believing the FDA?

You remind me of those who, when Dr. Carson was running for president, ran to the internet to accuse him of being an idiot.


105 posted on 12/07/2023 7:46:11 AM PST by alnick
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To: exDemMom
Just in case someone believes that mRNA, present in every cell in the body, can accelerate cancer--no, it can't.

The clot shots have more than RNA. That article shows five different ways the clot shots can get DNA fragments (remember them?) into the nucleus.

https://expose-news.com/2023/12/06/plasmid-dna-in-pfizer-c19vaccine-enters-nucleus-of-cells/

Oh, and by the way. LNP/mRNA is already being explored/commercialized FOR gene therapy.

In this case, mRNA-LNPs were capable of going for hematopoietic stem cells (HSCs)… …in order to produce a “gene editor” within the cell:

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Reveal the Secrets
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By the Power
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For we know
that none is wiser
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Hearken to us,
exDemMom
PhD of Great Aplomb!

Help, help, we’re being Misinformed!

106 posted on 12/08/2023 8:32:54 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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