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1 posted on 11/25/2023 9:54:08 AM PST by ganeemead
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The Big Guy’s GOTTA keep the grift going!!


2 posted on 11/25/2023 10:01:05 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: ganeemead

This has been common knowledge, for those who pay attention, since the deed went down.


4 posted on 11/25/2023 10:33:05 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ganeemead

Democrats needed this war just like they needed COVID.


5 posted on 11/25/2023 10:42:25 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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Yep, this refers to back in Spring 2022, when the Uke Nazis stupidly trusted Biden and Johnson and signed up all of Ukraine as the West's Proxy Suicide Squad.

Now we are getting to the Suicide part of the "Deal".

Ukraine chose HomoGloboNazi, Ukraine chose unwisely.

Time to pay the piper with Ukraine Lives wasted.

6 posted on 11/25/2023 11:25:24 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Care to share your pearls of wisdom regarding Volodymyr Zelensky's aide, David Arakhami's claim?

Is he just another a Putin stooge?

7 posted on 11/25/2023 11:38:14 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Where would American conservatives get information, If it were not for the Hindustan Times, repeating a Russia Today story, alleging what one of Zelensky's aides said?
10 posted on 11/25/2023 11:44:34 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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While admitting the truth about the West scuttling the peace deal, Zelenski’s aide also stated that ‘no one’ in the Kiev regime currently, wants to stop the fighting.

Meanwhile its position in the Avdiivka cauldron is crumbling.


18 posted on 11/25/2023 1:07:19 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Merkel insisted that her stance on the Minsk agreement – which brought a ceasefire after Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula – had been right. Key points of the Minsk peace talks, including disarmament and supervision by an international body, were never followed through. But Merkel said the agreement had nevertheless helped buy Kyiv time to arm itself better against the Russian military.
21 posted on 11/25/2023 4:18:58 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Actually the Kremlin, on Putin’s instructions, scuppered the negotiations before Boris’ plane was wheels up.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/russias-draft-agreements-with-nato-and-the-united-states-intended-for-rejection/

The 2021 ultimatum, which you can read from the official Russian website in a link on that page, required NATO to agree to withdrawal of NATO article 5 protection for all members east of Germany, including any countries that were once inside the Warsaw Pact or USSR.

Anyone with an IQ higher than single digits can see a whole smorgasbord of showstoppers there.

1. Ukraine (a NATO partner not a member), and Russia (also a non member) cannot sign a deal that unilaterally forces NATO to rewrite its constition. Ever. NATO would simply ignore it.

2. The odds on getting all of NATO member countries including the ones it’d leave effectively defenceless against Russian aggression in future, to agree to that demand, is about as high as getting all of the UN security council including Russia and China to sign away their veto rights. As in, it’s sheer fantasy.

3. Russia was dumb enough to not just insist on that. They also demanded NATO members can’t even do agreed training on each others soil without getting Moscow to allow it.

4. While making these demands Russian politicians were going on Russian TV celebrating the slaughter in Mariupol and talking about exterminating Ukraine as an ethnonationalist reality. One Duma deputy said that even if Ukraine agreed to the terms then Russia should inflict between 5 and 15% of its population to collective punishment for opposing Russian takeover. This sentiment was reflected in a press article, “what Russia should do with Ukraine”.

Boris was entirely right to say we (ie no NATO member) would ever sign off Russia’s demands. And as Russia seemed committed to running a reign of terror even if they won their peace deal, the peace deal was for the birds.

Five percent of Ukraine’s population at the time was over 2 million. Fifteen percent was 6 million. Does a figure of six million people being culturally and politically annihilated on the basis of bullshit grievances from a slightly mad history buff butthurt over a a war that had ended some 20 years earlier remind you of anything?

Europe remembers what the Nazis did to the Jews and it remembers the Holodomor. We also remember that Lebensraum and the Final Solution were all signposted alongside a whole mass of bullshit about a global conspiracy involving Jews.

When we all said after World War 2, ‘never again ‘, to that happening in Europe we actually meant it. USA included.


22 posted on 11/26/2023 2:04:38 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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https://gettr.com/comment/c2710sc7dd8


24 posted on 11/26/2023 2:53:52 AM PST by combat_boots ( )
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