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Looking Back to 1985: World’s Longest War Ended
EuroWeekly News ^ | 08 Nov 2023 | John Smith

Posted on 11/16/2023 11:47:31 AM PST by nickcarraway

Some wars last longer than others but one of the longest wars in history was formally declared over on February 5, 1985.

This was the Third Punic War which officially lasted 2,131 years although there wasn’t much fighting after 146BC as the forces of Rome finally defeated those of Carthage (now part of Tunisia) and the area became the Roman Province of Africa.

Carthage destroyed

The city was destroyed and for many years no-one was allowed to rebuild or resettle but when the Emperor Augustus came to power, he was aware of a plan by Julius Caesar to rebuild Carthage and this was implemented, resulting in a new and prosperous city.

It was discovered much later however that the no peace treaty had ever been signed so, in 1985, Ugo Vetere, then the mayor of Rome, and Chedli Klibi, then the mayor of Carthage met in Tunis to sign a symbolic treaty of friendship officially ending the Third Punic War.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: carthage; donatefreerepublic; europe; jimknowsdonors; rome; thirdpunicwar

1 posted on 11/16/2023 11:47:31 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

...and the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl.


2 posted on 11/16/2023 11:53:05 AM PST by Beave Meister (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli....)
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To: nickcarraway
It's certainly an interesting tidbit that the war didn't "officially" end for so long, but let's face it: when you've killed 90% of the opposition's entire population, enslaved and deported the remainder and depopulated the site for a century...

...the war's over.
3 posted on 11/16/2023 12:02:56 PM PST by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: Beave Meister

🌐 Chicago Delenda Est! ..............................


4 posted on 11/16/2023 12:03:55 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: nickcarraway

Carthage was already defeated in 201 BC, but by 146 BC it literally ceased to exist. The city was completely razed, its entire army sold into slavery, and Rome decreed nothing could be built there ever again (although Julius Caesar began a new settlement there)

There was no peace treaty because Carthage simply didn’t exist.


5 posted on 11/16/2023 12:11:48 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Beave Meister

And the Detroit Lions made the playoffs.


6 posted on 11/16/2023 12:14:33 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: PGR88

“Carthage simply didn’t exist.”

That is what some wanted to do to Germany after WW II.

I wonder why Carthage didn’t gradually rebuild since it presumedly had a favorable geographic location. Maybe corrupt governments, Muslim control, and/or too profitable as a tourist location. IDK.


7 posted on 11/16/2023 12:23:53 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: verum ago
"It's certainly an interesting tidbit that the war didn't “officially” end for so long, but let's face it: when you've killed 90% of the opposition's entire population, enslaved and deported the remainder and depopulated the site for a century...
...the war's over.

I think Gaza needs the same treatment.

8 posted on 11/16/2023 12:24:09 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (With the Federal DOJ illegally hounding President Trump he has become the 1st true black president)
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To: PGR88
Gaius Gracchus tried to found a colony at the site of Carthage about 24 years after the city was destroyed but it didn't happen, and he was killed.

If a war continues if there is no peace treaty, the US Civil War hasn't ended, since the Union and the Confederacy never signed a peace treaty.

9 posted on 11/16/2023 1:19:37 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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“If a war continues if there is no peace treaty, the US Civil War hasn’t ended, since the Union and the Confederacy never signed a peace treaty.”

The US never recognized the Confederacy as a legitimate government. Therefore no peace treaty was needed.


10 posted on 11/16/2023 2:56:22 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: alternatives?

The Romans completely demolished the city and sowed the land with salt to prevent rebuilding.


11 posted on 11/16/2023 3:15:25 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deepstate)
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I read that the salting story is now considered legendary.


12 posted on 11/16/2023 3:32:23 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: nickcarraway
Ugo Vetere, then the mayor of Rome, and Chedli Klibi, then the mayor of Carthage met in Tunis to sign a symbolic treaty of friendship officially ending the Third Punic War.

That's silly. Carthage became a major city in the Roman Empire. Christian leaders meeting in Carthage at the end of the fourth century AD arranged the Holy Bible as we know it today.

In the seventh century, the Roman emperor Flavius Heraclius even considered moving the capital of the Roman empire to Carthage given the threat posed to Constantinople by barbarians and Muslim Arabs. Had he done so, abandoning Europe, we might today be praying to Mecca or greeting each other saying "Odin speed to Valhalla."

Carthage was eventually destroyed by the Arabs in AD 698, and after the Crusaders came through in 1270, it gave up trying to be a big city, preferring to become an upscale suburb of its former suburb Tunis.

13 posted on 11/16/2023 4:14:22 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: alternatives?

Possibly, but it was over a hundred years between the destruction of Carthage and the establishment of the Roman colony of Julia Carthago on the same site.


14 posted on 11/16/2023 7:01:44 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deepstate)
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To: Red Badger

It’s true...


15 posted on 11/17/2023 7:31:59 PM PST by Beave Meister (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli....)
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