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As I was reading the very detailed and well written piece at Comment #78, I began to wonder about what was really happening in Ukraine during this March/April expression of hope and optimism for a quick peace between Ukraine and Russia. First of all was the BIG problem that settlement included leaving Russia with Crimea, and Ukraine with the problem of supplying Crimea with water from the Dnieper River (from the dam ultimately destroyed by Russia in their stupid attempt to flood the marshes east of Kherson). I looked for independent news articles regarding conditions in Ukraine during the March/April 2022 period of hope and optimism in the West and among Ukraine’s leaders. I chose the link below written by on the spot AlJazeera journalists at that time. I figured Aljazeera would not have the same biases as Western or Russian writers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/6/21/inside-ukraine-war-crimes-investigations

This article covers the tragedy of one Bucha family which began on March 11, 2022. By this time bodies were already littering the town’s streets. The family wife disappeared while seeking water and medicine. Husbands were staying home because Ukraine men were already being picked up by Russia soldiers and being beaten and tortured. About 2 weeks later the family was told to come get the woman’s body at a collection point where many other bodies were gathered. Read the whole story to get the full picture of what she and others were forced to suffer in March 2022 before their murder.

By early April the West must have been coming aware of the true situation in occupied Ukraine. If a decision was made by NAtO countries and Ukraine that a just peace was impossible to achieve with blatant war criminals, it was an honest and well reasoned decision and agreement between NATO and other Western countries with Ukraine that a just peace was impossible to negotiate with such a lying mass of monsters. It was not a sign of NATO dishonesty. It was a true sign of just how horrible and evil this Russian/Putin invasion really was. Good decision NATO and Ukraine!! Shame on those in the US government refusing to continue help that is only costing about 5% of our US military budget to nip such horrible aggression in the bud. Not only are we preserving Western civilization and Ukraine, but if our help stops this war, Putin will no longer be able to send his non-Russian citizen/victims off to be slaughtered in his ego driven NON-war. China will also see we do not put up with such wanton and viscious aggression. Two very good ultimate results.


164 posted on 11/17/2023 12:17:24 PM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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China 🇨🇳 will own America shortly and for many a collapse of this corrupt government can’t come soon enough. Buckle up, granny 👍🤣


165 posted on 11/17/2023 12:37:37 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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