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To: SheepWhisperer
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 11/11/2023 Vol.479, Q Day 2206, SheepWhisperer wrote:

You forgot the “instill despair”.

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Your premise is not accepted and you are not the judge of intentions. What you’re doing is gaslighting.

...of course your reply will include more false premises and name calling. It’s what you do.

...all because I asked a simple question.
It’s been five years of “the plan”. Will you wait another five years?

That will be ten years total...15-20% of your life waiting for “the plan”. At what point does one change his/her thoughts that there maybe is no “plan”?

It’s an honest question. Many have walked away from “the plan”, because in their observations, no plan is developing in any meaningful way

Because of this, these threads have become a bit nutty with quite antisocial behavior in defence of holding out for “the plan”.

At what point does someone change their mind?
A fairly simple question, which should be welcomed by reasonable and naturally curious people.

However, the responses to this simple question are not normal healthy communication. Rather, the unnatural and angry responses, indicate defensiveness and pressure to conform to groupthink.

Imagine sitting at dinner with friends and you ask a question which challenges some beliefs around the table and the other guests rage at you, simply for asking a question and banish you to the other room to eat from a folding tv stand. That’s what the reaction here is like. Adults, secure in their knowledge, reason and intellect don’t behave this way.

Leftists behave that way, because they absolutely cannot tolerate views that differ from their own. Children do the same thing. In their minds, no independent thoughts are allowed.

Let us not behave like leftists and children

=o)

I'm skeptical every time I hear more from you because you share  your disdain for us so freely, and because I recall your effort to start a defund FR effort. Yes, I know you've said that I intentionally mischaracterized your defund effort in the past, but that's what it was. So when I see your victim card posts, I sigh.

I never knew what 'started' that whole firestorm of disruption that went on for over a year, which included  i your calls to withhold donations to FR, until I was searching an old thread today. *FacePalm*  I can't believe our entire thread had to endure repeated tsunamis of victim angst over THAT!!!

In addition to viewing your lobbying to withold donations a clear attempt to 'Defund FR', I'm also skeptical of your 'simple question' because forum trolls were asking us that same 'simple question' from the start of the Q threads. Sometimes they'd just show up and start in with the abuse and when met with hostile responses,  blurt out "But  I was just asking a question!" even though they forgot to ask a question. I recall Bagster asking one, "What was your question..." and getting no response because that troll forgot to play that card first.

One of our thread disrupters was called on his doom posts, and what do you know, he blurted that he was being attacked for 'just asking a question' (referring to an entirely different post he made). The 'Just asking a question' can be said by anyone, friend or foe, but on these threads it's almost always foe.

We know exactly what you meant. Your pals know, and the rest of us know.

There are many different opinons on this thread about Q and the Storm. I'm one who is astounded and blessed by all the progress made and plan to post about it soon. I respect those who disagree with me; I don't try to bait them and then denigrate them when I don't get the response I want.

You're here to tell us, according to phrases I've taken from your post, that if we don't play interested host to your loaded question, or reject it (*gasp*), we're behaving like we're 'nutty', 'antisocial', 'unnatural and angry', 'defensive' and conforming to 'groupthink', insecure  in our 'knowledge, reason and intellect', similar to 'leftists' thinking and childlike, and unable to entertain independent thoughts.

Gosh, I have NO IDEA why anyone would think you're trying to disrupt or demoralize. NO IDEA.

Based on your posts, I definitely believe you are here working to demoralize and yes, I can have an opinion about your intentions.

Imagine sitting at dinner with friends and you ask a question which challenges some beliefs around the table and the other guests rage at you, simply for asking a question and banish you to the other room to eat from a folding tv stand. That’s what the reaction here is like. Adults, secure in their knowledge, reason and intellect don’t behave this way.

If any adult ends up in Festival eating from a folding tv stand, it means they brought that TV stand to Festival with them as part of their VICTIM STATUS posturing.

For those who may be reading along in Rio Linda, Festival is being targeted lately because it has historically been a useful location to have side conversations. For example, if some are engaged in highly specific topics requiring advanced knowledge to participate, those participants may be asked to move the conversation to Festival few can follow the topic and so interest is limited. Or perhaps religious debates, which given their passionate, heart-felt nature, can sometimes offend more than inform. Sometimes our friends can't agree and we can't assist in resolving their disagreement, so after awhile, they may be asked to continue their debate in Festival. 

Festival has successfully been used by those who object to my presence - they gathered to talk about how domineering, ignorant and devious I am. Their conversation took place without disrupting the main thread. I've posted in Festival - discussed content of limited interest to others and asked for help with html coding etc. Festival works.

I believe the push these days to portray Festival invitations as insulting is primarily being conducted by disrupters to try to deligitimize its use, make it an insult, and thereby keep all their disruptive actions on the active thread as much as possible. Sadly, that means they may 'need' to deceive some  innocent bystanders into feeling offended if asked to move content to Festival.

So there's an effort to stigmatize Festival as unacceptable to free speech. Free Speech is the last thing disrupters want - they try to discourage us, drive us off the Q thread, convince us Q is a failure/larp, convince us we are stupid, biased, failures, wasting our time etc. That whole "FREE SPEECH!" thing they do is just another tactic; and they do it by claiming we're suppressing THEIR free speech!

Recently, one of their kind picked up a beautiful, encouraging meme on our thread, defaced it with bird feces and posted it back to the thread, and when it was deleted snarked about others being prevented from viewing it (FREE SPEECH VIOLATION!); that same person previously posted disinformation meant to close down the Q thread completely, and used to target women with lewd, sexuallly abusive posts.

These people are not about fairness, free speech etc. That's just the ghillie suit they wear to blend in and harness the good in others for their own disruptive purposes.

I'm tired of seeing the 'victim card' thrown around as if the Q thread is the CCP gulag. "Questions have to be pre approved! BLAH BLAH BLAH." No one forces you to come back again and again to tell us your low opinion of us. Your colleagues proudly share your dislike of Q and despise us as you do - try to understand that your kind is in the minority, and the rest of us would just like to converse and post in relative peace, spiced with our natural disagreements, and disparate world views and analysis.

Stop trolling us. You don't like the Q movement, think it's failed, you've poured one negative opinion after another on us. Your repetitious chiding and insults are worn out, as is your VICTIM CARD.


1,493 posted on 11/17/2023 9:25:30 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUSTPING)
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To: ransomnote; All

Interesting phenomenon:

Now and then, I get a little discouraged about how long this plan is taking. Then a troll comes along and tells me that there is no plan or that it’s taking too long or that I’m stupid, etc. Oddly, that has the effect of making me dig my heels in and it gives me GREAT CONFIDENCE in the plan.

Partly because of my own stubbornness and orneriness. But also partly because it’s so apparent to me that no one would waste their time trying to discourage us unless we were on the right track. :-)

If this were a thread about going to the moon because it’s made of cheese, do you suppose we’d have a constant stream of trolls telling us how stupid we are? I doubt it. They would just leave us nutters alone with our delusions. But if it were a thread about going to the mood because it’s made of diamonds and there were people who didn’t want us to find out for sure because they were hoping to keep the diamonds for themselves, they would be trolling here trying to discourage us. They would also be discouraging us even if they knew we weren’t exactly right but close - maybe the moon is full of not diamonds but gold.

So I think that regardless of whether we have the details exactly right, we are most certainly on the right track and the trolls know it. And it panics them that we are on the right track and getting closer every day.


1,561 posted on 11/18/2023 4:58:49 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: ransomnote

Hear! Hear!


1,566 posted on 11/18/2023 6:12:42 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: ransomnote

“For those who may be reading along in Rio Linda, Festival is being targeted lately because it has historically been a useful location to have side conversations. For example, if some are engaged in highly specific topics requiring advanced knowledge to participate, those participants may be asked to move the conversation to Festival few can follow the topic and so interest is limited. Or perhaps religious debates, which given their passionate, heart-felt nature, can sometimes offend more than inform. Sometimes our friends can’t agree and we can’t assist in resolving their disagreement, so after awhile, they may be asked to continue their debate in Festival. “
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Have content of JOS interviews and Jesse Czebotar testimonials been moved out of festival?


1,570 posted on 11/18/2023 6:35:49 AM PST by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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what a pant load.

I respect those who disagree with me;
no you do not!

I don't try to bait them and then denigrate them when I don't get the response I want.
Yes you do. That's exactly what your post is doing.
1,583 posted on 11/18/2023 8:40:39 AM PST by stylin19a (Back when men cursed & beat the ground with sticks, it was named witchcraft. Today it's named golf.)
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To: ransomnote

Is there any material difference between trolls who occasionally show up on Q threads to tell us there is no plan, we are stupid and gullible to believe some false “Q plan” etc, and thread regulars who say the same thing? Other than JR said that people who show up to disrupt have to leave the thread.


1,587 posted on 11/18/2023 9:03:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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