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Revelation 2: …fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
1 posted on 11/10/2023 5:16:31 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The core idea of the Trannies is:

“God got it wrong. But I fixed it. I changed my gender to be what God should have done if He hadn’t screwed it up. I’m just lucky that I know more than God.”

And the Catholic Church seems fine with this sort of thinking.


2 posted on 11/10/2023 5:22:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“..Pope Francis‘s premiership...”

🤨


3 posted on 11/10/2023 5:28:41 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Transgender” is not a real thing. It is merely transvestites playing dress-up, and engaging in cosplay.
For the more extreme examples, body mutilation, creating an illusion of assumed secondary sexual characteristics, still does not change in any way, shape, form, means or fashion, the basic configuration in every cell of the individual’s body.

XX chromosome count is female, XY chromosome count is male. No amount of weeping, cursing, denial or self-hypnosis will EVER change that configuration.


4 posted on 11/10/2023 5:31:00 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The Whore of Babylon raises
The Bar yet again...


5 posted on 11/10/2023 5:42:15 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Trannie Pope coming in the future?
Don’t laugh.
The corruption is that deep.


6 posted on 11/10/2023 5:42:38 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Jan_Sobieski

And Catholics claim that Catholicism is the “One True Church”.

It forfeited the right to be called a church a LONG time ago. Like hundreds of years, at least.


8 posted on 11/10/2023 5:59:17 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
“A transgender person, even if they have undergone hormone therapy and sex-reassignment surgery, can receive baptism under the same conditions as other faithful, if there are no situations in which there is a risk of generating a public scandal or disorientation among the faithful,” the Vatican stated. However, priests may refuse to baptize a transgender person if “there is a danger of scandal, undue legitimisation or disorientation in the educational sphere of the church community.” The church also now permits gay people to be witnesses at Catholic weddings but does not allow them to be godparents to baptized children.

"Under the same conditions as other faithful" could mean only if the trans had converted, and aside from the false Catholic gospel not being that of penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith being imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5 in Catholicism is it imagined that the act itself (ex opere operato) of a valid baptism effects regeneration, rendering the baptized inwardly just, and good enough to actually enter Heaven, thus it is assumed that such could go directly to Heaven if they died in that state.

However, since the unholy sinful Adamic nature is all too alive and manifests itself in these "inwardly just" (righteous souls), meaning that unless they died having attained to the level of practical perfection needed, then they are in in need of purification when they die in order to once again become actually good enough to see and be with God:

Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. (CCC 1992)

The grace of Christ is the gratuitous gift...infused by the Holy Spirit into our soul to heal it of sin and to sanctify it. It is the sanctifying or deifying grace received in Baptism. (CCC 1999) (

more infants are now saved by baptism than were justified formerly by the active faith of their parents. (Catholic Encyclopedia > Baptism)

By virtue of our apostolic authority, we define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . .) have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels. (CCC 1023)

Yet certain temporal consequences of sin remain in the baptized , such as suffering, illness, death, and such frailties inherent in life as weaknesses of character, and so on, as well as an inclination to sin that Tradition calls concupiscence. .. (CCC 1264)

One "cannot approach God till the purging fire shall have cleansed the stains with which his soul was infested." (Catholic Encyclopedia>Purgatory)

"Every trace of attachment to evil must be eliminated, every imperfection of the soul corrected." Purification must be complete..." "This is exactly what takes place in Purgatory." — John Paul II, Audiences, 1999; http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_04081999.html

"...we will go to Purgatory first, and then to Heaven after we are purged of all selfishness and bad habits and character faults." Peter Kreeft, Because God Is Real: Sixteen Questions, One Answer, p. 224


And this premise would also exclude the contrite criminal of Luke 23:43 from being with Christ at death, yet who was told by the Lord that he would be with Christ in Paradise that day. And likewise imperfect Paul, (Philippians 3:13) who attested that to be absent from the body was to be present with the Lord. (2 Corinthians 5:7; cf. Philippians 1:23) And indeed it would exclude all believers who were told that they would be forever with the Lord if He returned in their lifetime (1 This. 4:17) though they were still undergoing growth in grace, as was Paul. 

In contrast, wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for believers then it is with the Lord, (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17

And rather than Purgatory conforming souls to Christ to inherit the kingdom of God, the next transformative experience that is manifestly taught is that of being made like Christ in the resurrection. (1Jn. 3:2; Rm. 8:23; 1Co 15:53,54; 2Co. 2-4) At which time is the judgment seat of Christ And which is the only suffering after this life, which does not begin at death, but awaits the Lord's return, (1 Corinthians 4:5; 2 Timothy. 4:1,8; Revelation 11:18; Matthew 25:31-46; 1 Peter 1:7; 5:4) and is the suffering of the loss of rewards (and the Lord's displeasure!) due to the manner of material one built the church with. But which one is saved despite the loss of such, not because of. (1 Corinthians 3:8ff

In addition, the whole premise that suffering itself perfects a person is specious, since testing of character requires being able to choose btwn alternatives, and which this world provides. Thus it is only this world that Scripture peaks of here development of character, such as "Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations." (1 Peter 1:6) The Lord Jesus, in being "made perfect" (Hebrews 2:10) as regards experientially "in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin" (Hebrews 4:15) was subjected to this in the life.

10 posted on 11/10/2023 6:26:27 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I shall always be CATHOLIC.

And when they get rid of pope frank, I shall return to the Church.


11 posted on 11/10/2023 6:27:31 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Are trannies banging down church doors in great crowds demanding to be baptized?

Francis is a misguided, emotional, foolish Karen in a pope’s body


15 posted on 11/10/2023 6:48:08 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Jan_Sobieski
“A transgender person, even if they have undergone hormone therapy and sex-reassignment surgery, can receive baptism under the same conditions as other faithful, if there are no situations in which there is a risk of generating a public scandal or disorientation among the faithful,” the Vatican stated.

That horse has left the station.

19 posted on 11/10/2023 7:13:50 AM PST by caddie
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To: Jan_Sobieski

NOT the Catholic Church. It is the heretical abomination that mocks God.

God will not be mocked. Do so at the risk of your immortal soul.


21 posted on 11/10/2023 7:57:28 AM PST by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
... if “there is a danger of scandal,...

IF?!?!?


23 posted on 11/10/2023 12:22:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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But he said to them, “Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given.
For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth,
and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others,
and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.
Let anyone accept this who can.”

—Matthew 19:11–12
 
 

 

 

26 Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, “Rise and go toward the south[a] to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” This is a desert place. 27 And he rose and went. And there was an Ethiopian, a eunuch, a court official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of all her treasure. He had come to Jerusalem to worship 28 and was returning, seated in his chariot, and he was reading the prophet Isaiah. 29 And the Spirit said to Philip, “Go over and join this chariot.” 30 So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. 32 Now the passage of the Scripture that he was reading was this:

“Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter
    and like a lamb before its shearer is silent,
    so he opens not his mouth.
33 In his humiliation justice was denied him.
    Who can describe his generation?
For his life is taken away from the earth.”

34 And the eunuch said to Philip, “About whom, I ask you, does the prophet say this, about himself or about someone else?” 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning with this Scripture he told him the good news about Jesus. 36 And as they were going along the road they came to some water, and the eunuch said, “See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?”[b] 38 And he commanded the chariot to stop, and they both went down into the water, Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him. 39 And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch saw him no more, and went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip found himself at Azotus, and as he passed through he preached the gospel to all the towns until he came to Caesarea.

 


24 posted on 11/10/2023 12:30:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
When I was growing up in the 1970s, you couldn't eat meat on Fridays, nor could you take communion if you were divorced.

The Catholic religion seems to have relaxed their standards somewhat since those days.

28 posted on 11/10/2023 3:08:22 PM PST by SamAdams76 (6,390,901 Truth | 86,874,940 Twitter)
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