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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Apparatchik; rxh4n1
Extremely Extreme Extremist: "CNN already did a segment that Ukraine is losing and referenced Time Magazine that Zelenskyy is looking for an off-ramp to end the war.
There's no path to victory for Ukraine."

You are a fool if you believe a word from CNN or Time Magazine.
Both are loathsome creatures of darkness and lies.

The truth is, there are several definitions of victory for Ukraine, and each definition has paths to get there.
Zelenskyy's definitions of victory are focused on Crimea, and in that Ukraine is largely victorious, having rendered Crimea unusable to the Russian navy, which was Vlad the Invader's single biggest justification for seizing Crimea in 2014 -- he claimed he needed the naval base at Sevastopol, and now he can't use it.

By another definition of victory, Ukraine already won in the first few weeks of war -- there will never again be a Russian dominated Ukraine, Ukraine is now permanently independent of Russia and firmly allied with Europe and NATO.
What's at issue today is the exact borders of independent Ukraine.

Extremely Extreme Extremist to UMCRevMom@aol.com: "Maybe you should stop hitting the boxed Franzia wine and get the real news."

If you had any serious argument to make here, you wouldn't be blasting away with ridiculous personal insults.

New Russian navy missile corvette type -- Askold, at Kersh naval yard, Crimea, reportedly hit by Ukrainian missiles November 4, 2023:


48 posted on 11/05/2023 3:16:14 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
You are a fool if you believe a word from CNN or Time Magazine. Both are loathsome creatures of darkness and lies.

They're the Left's mouthpieces though. If they're reporting this, it's over. Usually, they would bury this or try to spin it.

The truth is, there are several definitions of victory for Ukraine, and each definition has paths to get there.

The truth is, Ukraine has no path to victory. Which is why the fake Biden administration is gently off-ramping and switching to Israel.

Zelenskyy's definitions of victory are focused on Crimea, and in that Ukraine is largely victorious, having rendered Crimea unusable to the Russian navy, which was Vlad the Invader's single biggest justification for seizing Crimea in 2014 -- he claimed he needed the naval base at Sevastopol, and now he can't use it.

Russia has the upper-hand in any negotiations, so your scenario isn't valid. And trust me, there WILL be negotiations.

By another definition of victory, Ukraine already won in the first few weeks of war

ROFL

-- there will never again be a Russian dominated Ukraine, Ukraine is now permanently independent of Russia and firmly allied with Europe and NATO.

Firmly allied with the WEF, EU, and the Globalists. Not a good trade-off.

If you had any serious argument to make here, you wouldn't be blasting away with ridiculous personal insults.

Oh come on, we're all adults here. Insults and sarcasm has always been the hallmark of FR.

55 posted on 11/05/2023 6:17:19 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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