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The Tesla killer? Toyota's EV breakthrough will allow cars to travel 745 miles on a single 10 minute charge - more than DOUBLE the range of most existing electric vehicles
Daily Mail ^ | 10/24/23 | Neirin Gray Desai

Posted on 10/24/2023 1:22:01 AM PDT by Libloather

Toyota has said it is close to being able to mass manufacture potentially revolutionary solid-state batteries that could offer double the range of existing electric cars.

According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.

They have been presented by experts as a revolutionary technology that could bring EVs into the mainstream.

Switching to an electric vehicle is out of reach for many Americans, experts have warned, as a lack of access to charging ports mean they fear being left stranded in shorter-range vehicles.

The driving range of electric cars varies between models, but is typically around 300 miles.

While solid-state batteries could be revolutionary, they also present challenges for manufacturers. According to Toyota, one of the most significant hurdles is the assembly process, in which layers of cathode and anode cells need to be stacked quickly and precisely.

Claims that Toyota is on the brink of being of being able to mass manufacture solid-state batteries were first published in the Financial Times on Monday.

'In terms of the stacking speed, we are almost there. We are going to roll out bigger volumes and check the quality,' an engineer for the company told the outlet.

Earlier this month, Toyota CEO Koji Sato announced that the firm would partner with major Japanese oil refiner Idemitsu Kosan on the project to manufacture the batteries.

'With repeated efforts involving trial and error, we have succeeded in developing a material that is more stable and less prone to crack,' Sato told reporters in Tokyo during an announcement with Idemitsu.

'The future of mobility lies in the tie-up between the auto and energy sectors, including this innovation hailing from Japan,' he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: electric; hybrids; tesla; toyota; travel; twofaced; youaskedforit
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To: Fellow Traveler

1.2 MW x 20 charging stations = 24 MW. How are they going to deliver that much power to many such “refueling” stations?


41 posted on 10/24/2023 5:46:23 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Mogger
But if you've, played with big capacitors...

In the lab @ college some 35 or so years ago, someone left a 1 Farad cap on the bench fully charged. My, less than brilliant, lab partner picked it up by the terminals. One in each hand. Took the full discharge across his chest. Survived it but got a free ride to the emergency room. Was hospitalized over night.

42 posted on 10/24/2023 5:48:56 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Libloather

Sounds promising.


43 posted on 10/24/2023 5:49:08 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: Libloather

It’s Magic


44 posted on 10/24/2023 5:52:07 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Fellow Traveler
500 and 800 vdc rated taking the best case scenario of 800 volts it would require a 1500 Amp connection. That is usually a bus bar not Cable.

800VDC @ 1500A = death (or a blown off hand or arm if you're lucky). The current thru you would generate enough heat to instantly boil any soft tissue in the current path.

1500A busbar = 1" x 2" copper bar for a length of 1' or less. More if the length is greater.

45 posted on 10/24/2023 6:00:12 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Libloather

Yeah, I will believe it when I see an actual production card that will do that.


46 posted on 10/24/2023 6:01:52 AM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: Fellow Traveler

The laws of physics are, like, so yesterday.


47 posted on 10/24/2023 6:06:17 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Jonty30

...where are we going to get all this copper from to electrify society...


Who needs copper? They’ll weave the cables together from Collectivist Dreams and Unicorn Farts!


48 posted on 10/24/2023 6:06:38 AM PDT by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: FreedomPoster; rlmorel

things like this smack of the Fusion Reactor technology that has always been 5-10 years away


Not just “fusion,” it was always “cold fusion!”


49 posted on 10/24/2023 6:10:54 AM PDT by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: Sirius Lee

That’s a lot of current. I wonder what kind of cabling and connectors Toyota is picturing for the charging stations. Will there be a trained attendant to hook up your car and monitor things or is the average Joe expected to walk up and successfully manage a multi-megawatt electrical power transfer?

That said, regarding this new battery, it doesn’t sound like just pie in the sky to me. The technology itself seems proven and it’s now just a matter of getting the manufacturing process worked out. Of course it happens all the time that a product isn’t viable because it can’t be manufactured but at least this battery is far enough into development that the remaining hurdles are related to manufacturing and not the feasibility of the basic technology.


50 posted on 10/24/2023 6:10:55 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Cold_Red_Steel

We will hold hands.


51 posted on 10/24/2023 6:12:11 AM PDT by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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To: Cold_Red_Steel

lol, of course! (We may get REAL fusion before that danged COLD fusion...)


52 posted on 10/24/2023 6:14:22 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Libloather

I am so glad congress is appropriating money to build 50 new nuclear reactor power plants by 2030. /sarc


53 posted on 10/24/2023 6:15:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Libloather
"According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028."

And cost HOW MUCH.???

54 posted on 10/24/2023 6:16:13 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: Gnome1949

P=VI. In 10 minutes to recharge a battery like this, ‘I’ ( amps ) will have to be thru the roof. We are talking about some serious heat in that transfer of that much energy.


55 posted on 10/24/2023 6:17:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Libloather

We would get some vaporized copper thieves at the charging stations.


56 posted on 10/24/2023 6:22:03 AM PDT by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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To: Libloather

Occam’s Razor:

They are lying.


57 posted on 10/24/2023 6:23:40 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: rlmorel

So cheap, they won’t even meter the electricity.


58 posted on 10/24/2023 6:30:27 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (w)
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To: Libloather

Where is all this “supposed” demand for electric cars?

It certainly is not from the vast majority of the public.

The real question is “who” is creating all this “demand” and if it is not there, why are public companies pouring billions into a product most people do not want?


59 posted on 10/24/2023 6:48:59 AM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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To: P-Marlowe

Toyota has had a joint venture with Panasonic to create these solid state batteries. They have invested many MILLIONS in this technology. That is because the company that can perfect it will put everyone else out of business. The batteries would outlive the actual automobile that they were in.


60 posted on 10/24/2023 6:51:08 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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