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The ATF is cracking down on SOTs using Law Enforcement Demonstration letters to obtain Dealer Sample machine guns.

Other YouTubers like Brandon Herrera had better make sure their dealer sample collections are not next on the hit list.

1 posted on 10/23/2023 9:39:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Meanwhile I have watched videos of “teens” with “giggle swithces” on their Glock pistols and never heard of any of them getting busted by the tyrants at the ATF. Not sure they still sell them on Amazon and I certainly wouldn’t recommend buying them for cheap, but there was a company selling “mock” selective fire switches for Glock style airsoft pistols. Trust the government always about everything. The gangsters bought them up like crazy.


2 posted on 10/23/2023 10:29:55 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Vickers also allegedly had let his SOT lapse. He’s been very tight-lipped about this since this began but I read a comment from an acquaintance of his who claimed that there were “complications” with Vicker’s SOT renewal, implying that the ATF was impeding the renewal and/or Vickers attempts to divest himself of the NFA devices he no longer would have been in lawful possession of once his SOT had expired.

ATF has a lot of “open-ended” laws, same as the IRS, meaning the laws are written over-broad and non-specific and the agency is given WIDE latitude in its interpretation of them. These charges to me come down to an interpretation of “intent,” and just like IRS, once ATF has decided to steamroll you, there’s not much you can do to stop it.

Vickers was a key player in the SpecWar community in a period when Delta Force was growing into a much more mature, professional, capable, and fear-inspiring organization. It would be a shame if a man who played such a vital role in America’s security for so much of his life were to get sent to jail because he has an affinity for the tools of the trade he plied so ably on our nation’s behalf.


3 posted on 10/23/2023 10:36:53 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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This is the type of BS that is a direct result of the ‘86 ban on new transferable machine guns. There is no doubt that many collectors have an SOT license because there is no other way to obtain these weapons as a civilian. They are no more of a danger to the public than the cops or members of the military who are issued these weapons, but that matters not to the gun grabbers.

And I’ll remind everyone that the ‘86 ban, which was part of the Firearms Owners Protection Act, passed as an amendment in the house with only a voice vote, no recorded vote, as the crook Charlie Rangel, who was presiding, refused calls for a recorded vote and declared that the ayes won the vote.


4 posted on 10/23/2023 10:48:11 AM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: PROCON

Perhaps ping-worthy.


5 posted on 10/23/2023 10:54:11 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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6 posted on 10/23/2023 11:04:57 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Yep, sounds like bullcrap to me. Their whole case says he didn’t obtain them with the purpose of demonstration to LEOs. I don’t think the law says that the police department has to have the funds to buy them or the means to use them. If he actually demonstrated them to an LEO, i would think that would fulfill the letter of the law.


8 posted on 10/23/2023 3:42:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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