Just sayin’…
Posted on 10/06/2023 6:06:43 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | Ruzzian Tank Convoy Ambushed | Ukraine gained the Ground on the South
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRaFDf4oDUE
The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 4th October 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]
https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-588-summary/
*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!
https://militaryland.net/maps/
Just sayin’…
What an amusing exchange.
Conflating a government with a country is quite the category error, also known as category mistake.
Category Mistakes - Stanford Encyclopedia of PhilosophySome observations about France during WWII. One Philippe Pétain replaced Albert Lebrun, the last president of the Third Republic, and Vichy became the infamous name of that French government. Charles de Gaulle led the "resistance," from afar, and then in person the nation after the National Socialist defeat.
As to "surrender," the French did not surrender, for the more accurate term was and remains capitulate. Against overwhelming force in that bloody time, capitulation was the reasonable if sad alternative. Had the other north European nations and France not capitulated in that time, there would have likely been even more death and destruction. Sometimes, what is just is.
Moreover, in terms of this thread's "Update from Ukraine" daily theme, currently there is war. Period. Which side -- meaning government, as a category -- will win is not yet determined. Given the progress of wars throughout history, a side will win -- meaning government, as a category, again -- but the other category -- a people -- all sides are losing. Ukrainians and Russians and Americans as well, when one considers "the little guy."
In parallel, some few "big guys" are winning. As noted in other comments WITH citations and URLs, and these are also Ukrainian, Russian, American and some fat cat Europeans thrown in here and there.
The above comments do not conflate "country" with "government" with the "little guy" versus the "big guy." These are separate categories, and not what goes on so often -- intentional and unintentional category errors, being used usually in service to a argument's goal.
Time will tell.
Sorry but your words games make no sense.
What is it with some of these freepers?
There is only arrogance and ignorance....and self righteous scripture quoting. Lots of judging.
Worrisome that this is what people call Christianity today in the US.
This must be the neocon way.
I need to send you something.
Check your other messages today.
Ukraine is over, kids.
On to the next war.
Again, another disingenous play and false equivalence by a lockstep Youkazoid. The “Frenchy” comment was concerning the Hamas attack yesterday - it was an unsolicited comment telling non-Youkazoids to shut up on the matter. The comment you just countered with was on another, unrelated threqad and featured JonPreston’s response to Youkazoid Williams’ endless ballbusting and insults, which is something Williams does as a matter of course. No comparison, and not related. Frenchy’s bit was a censoring move. Prestons was a STFU response to an idiot. Such high school-style bullshit. Ugh.
Oh, so there's a double standard, eh?
Definition of 'hush': verb - make (someone) be quiet or stop talking.
Definition of 'silence': verb - prohibit or prevent from speaking.
Distinction without a difference.
To you. Ergo your comment says something most intriguing -- about you.
Worrisome that this is what people call Christianity today in the US.
This must be the neocon way.
Yes and the bloodlust some of them demonstrate is creepy.
That one is the pro-Ruzzian with the anti-American, anti-veteran, Communist ‘peace’ symbol in his tagline.
“Do not post to me ever again. Stop the harassment.”
How the hell is what TR posted “harassment?”
Intent and context. Keep obfuscating. . . it’s entertaining.
I am going to not get into the whole string of yesterday. I am going to kindly decline any explanations. I am weary of it.
Have a nice day.
“I double down on every single thing I have said since I’m on FR. It’s all based on pure “indictable” facts.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry it was a typo : Evidently, I meant “INDISPUTABLE” facts! The auto corrector again...
Thanks for the heads-up !
Now corrected.
No different than those Palis spitting on the corpse of that young woman from Germany in the back of a truck.
Humanity Of Americans gets closer and closer to Rome as our empire dies..
Do not post to me again. Simple request. Honor something if even possible for you.
You didn’t need to ping me. I don’t care if you make a dope out of yourself.
“Sorry but your words games make no sense.”
Glad you pointed that out!
Some folks just love their word salads without realizing others are having enjoying a full-course dinner!
Worldtraveler-once-upon-a-time only can post his assumptions. Just totally ignore his silly comments.
You write: "Worrisome that this is what people call Christianity today in the US. This must be the neocon way."
An excellent and pertinent observation. Christianity as a word means quite different things to different people, as salvos of scriptural citations service differing comments. As an example of "different things," one reads:
"Open and Affirming (ONA) is an official designation of congregations and other settings in the United Church of Christ (UCC) affirming the full inclusion of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and non-binary persons (LGBTQ) in the church's life and ministry.So Christianity of the "Open & Affirming" variety stands in opposition to Christianity of the "Faithful and Welcoming." Which is it, then?The Open and Affirming program is administered by the UCC Open and Affirming Coalition, which supports congregations and other church settings as they consider the adoption of an ONA "covenant" and maintains the official registry of ONA congregations and ministries. The Coalition encourages UCC congregations, campus ministries, seminaries, regional bodies and other settings of the church to engage their members in serious study of sexual orientation and gender identity and to declare publicly their full welcome and inclusion of LGBTQ people. With more than 1,600 congregations, the UCC's ONA program is the largest of several LGBT-welcoming church movements in U.S. and Canadian churches.
There is a similar "Open & Affirming" program in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ).
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_and_affirming
The Wiki then notes as "Opposition" -- "In response to the perceived promotion of the ONA movement by denominational officials, 75 UCC congregations have identified themselves as "Faithful and Welcoming" by affirming the Lexington Confession (named for the North Carolina town where it was drafted), which affirms marriage as an relationship between a man and woman."
A fair question which so many refuse to answer with any real clarity. Why? Because opting publicly for one or the other "outs" someone, and so many seek to not be so clearly identified.
As with other schisms throughout the history of the "church," this is a postmodern addition. And most assuredly a schism. For the most secular of reasons in the end.
Catholics, Protestants and varieties of Orthodox Christians differ. But all must confront and/or ignore Romans 1. There's the biblical bugaboo in this day. It is not so easily washed away by politics and pop psychology and all sorts of rationalizations.
For the King James adherents: ROMANS CHAPTER 1 KJVSo "update." There's the game. Update. Revise. Edit and amend. Remove. And be sure to vote for your favorite version of the "Gospel." One particular vote comes only next year, in its ten-year cycle.For the Douay-Rheims adherents: Epistle of St Paul to the Romans - Chapter 1
For the Orthodox Church in America: Romans 1:18-27 (Epistle) and more
For the New Revised Standard Version adherents: https://www.bible.com/bible/2016/ROM.1
This version is interesting in light of an article worth noting:
NRSV Updated Edition Removes 3 Biblical Condemnations of Homosexuality, Keeps Others
I recall decades ago acquiring a well-worn and century-old copy of a"Life of Christ" used in some seminaries. It contained the remarkable assertion that only once was scripture in error -- saying the Romans conducted the Crucifixion, because 'obviously' the Jews did.
One finds justifications for many things to begin to eat away at a tradition, in order to "fix" said traditional t. Such is it as the schism between "Open and Affirming" and "Faithful and Welcoming."
Such is it now as some denominations break apart, for the most "Christian" of reasons, depending wholly on how one defines "Christian," per the above.
An amusing anecdote: Years ago, a convocation of bible translators, expert in Hebrew, Aramaic, Koine Greek, Latin and more was held. Differences were of course of the academic sort, and sometimes it became heated. One very old scholar got up towards the end and simply said, "I prefer to read in the original." Best wishes.
As have been shared with me numerous times, just know “If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target!”
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