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To: Drew68

It is incomprehensible to me how so many people on the right STILL believe the national polls when they have a history that proves they are ALWAYS wrong.

They were wrong in 2008, 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022, and they are wrong today, because they are not conducted to reflect public opinion, but to shape public opinion.

In an election year, polls are only used for propaganda to try and sway the electorate. And it appears that their propaganda has worked on you.

You have to look at the internals of a poll to find out how accurate or inaccurate it is, and this latest WSJ poll is an utter scam.

The WSJ hired a PAID TRUMP POLLSTER, Tony Fabrizio, to conduct their poll!

Their poll is based primarily on “registered” voters which is never an accurate way of determining a poll. And the “likely” voters is only 300 when you need a minimum of 800 likely voters to be anywhere near reliable.

Although 50% of voters consider themselves Independent, their poll showed only 13% as being Independent, which is absurd.

Inside their poll it showed that 47% of primary voters “Could change mind and vote for someone else.”

Stop believing the RINOs at the WSJ because they’re trying to discourage DeSantis and his voters because they consider him too conservative.

I strongly disagree Trump has the momentum. He has no ground game whatsoever and DeSantis has a massive ground game in Iowa and New Hampshire. And he’s going to win these two states.


24 posted on 09/08/2023 9:53:04 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

If you think Desantis is going to win in New Hampshire, I’ve got a covered bridge I’ll sell you!


111 posted on 09/09/2023 3:42:16 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Southnsoul

Ground games now are ballot harvesting. You are living in the past.

Even those silly televised debates are worthless in this battle between good and evil.

Sorry but RDS has a very weak demeanor. He was not well known at all across America. Perhaps if he had finished his second term he could have gained a larger audience. That is a big “if” because his association with the Bush entitlement group sealed his fate.


118 posted on 09/09/2023 4:43:19 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Southnsoul
"You have to look at the internals of a poll to find out how accurate or inaccurate it is, and this latest WSJ poll is an utter scam.

The WSJ hired a PAID TRUMP POLLSTER, Tony Fabrizio, to conduct their poll!

Their poll is based primarily on “registered” voters which is never an accurate way of determining a poll. And the “likely” voters is only 300 when you need a minimum of 800 likely voters to be anywhere near reliable."

You Ronlims and your trash stupidity. WSJ was LV, in black and white. LV is just a topline, dumbass, you either reveal your RV -> LV refinement inside the poll, which is WSJ's preferred method, or you pump-and-dump RV outside the internals to often get a preferred outcome that you can label LV.

That did not happen inside the 8/24 - 8/30 WSJ poll, which was specifically refined to LV. Q11-13 below, if you can read...

Not only did WSJ completely line up with every other current national poll, but WSJ reveals the sad f'ing truth: DeSantis has nearly tripled his Unfavorable rating since April.


211 posted on 09/09/2023 12:07:30 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: Southnsoul
Eat it.


212 posted on 09/09/2023 12:09:40 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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