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Hawaiian Electric says power lines were shut off hours before wildfire
Reuters/MSN ^

Posted on 08/28/2023 2:35:06 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe

(Reuters) -Hawaiian Electric's shares jumped more than 40% on Monday after the utility said its power lines in West Maui had been shut down for more than six hours before wildfires started in the area during the afternoon.

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Hawaiian Electric said on Monday that a morning fire on Aug. 8 caused by power lines that fell in high winds was subsequently reported "100% contained" and later declared "extinguished" by the Maui County Fire Department.

The utility said another afternoon fire started in the same area more than six hours after all of its power lines in West Maui had been de-energized, which could not be contained by the fire department and spread out of control toward Lahaina.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: electric; fire; hawaii; utilities
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To: Tench_Coxe

“Is it me, or is something not adding up?”

What’s not adding up to me is that we haven’t heard this until now.


21 posted on 08/28/2023 3:14:37 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Tench_Coxe

It’s much easier and less expensive for a developer to deal with a non-resident heir than the living owner resident.


22 posted on 08/28/2023 3:14:59 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: ClearCase_guy
What you said made no sense I agree.

What they said did.

Now granted that it is almost a toss up as to who you believe, the government spokescreacher or a public utility spokescritter you have to remember that the government in question is that of Hawaii and so I would have to give the public utility company a slight edge.

Especially since the government continued to screw the pooch, cat, bird, snakes and any pet mice they could find all through out the event.

Messing up at that level takes real talent.

23 posted on 08/28/2023 3:16:43 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

“I hate to admit it, but this latest information about the power lines points to arson as a cause.”

I am in “Pollyanna” mode, thinking maybe some homeless person had a fire that got out of control. Early morning drunk or stoned and did not attend the campfire.
Seems like the power company did what was needed (they say the have records to support that), not a fan of the “energy beam weapons stuff”. So we have various agencies that failed at critical times, police, fire, and several government agencies, water, etc. They seemed to have been staffed with people who had some Hawaiian native goals and no real disaster training


24 posted on 08/28/2023 3:22:10 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: Chode

“ and the video showing them causing the fire???”
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Do you have a link to that video?


25 posted on 08/28/2023 3:22:46 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Fungi

Powerlines could very well have been down without police or fire knowing if they’re energized or not.


26 posted on 08/28/2023 3:37:37 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Based on Canada, Greece, and (in recent years) California, I am now coining the term “Environmental Reichstag Fire”.

No matter how many arsonists are arrested, the government and the media call it “climate change”.


27 posted on 08/28/2023 3:39:15 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Mean Daddy

“ Powerlines could very well have been down without police or fire knowing if they’re energized or not.”

One phone call could have taken care of that issue in less than a minute.

L


28 posted on 08/28/2023 3:39:24 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Australia as well.


29 posted on 08/28/2023 3:42:09 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Tench_Coxe
It hasn’t added up from the very beginning. It’s to be expected from any blue state with a vast majority of blue people. They won’t learn from this.

You can almost guarantee that any official report will be released weeks after anyone is reporting on the wildfire, and only then a whitewash of a report will be quietly posted on a government website at 4:59 pm Hawaii time on a Friday.

30 posted on 08/28/2023 3:55:57 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: Tench_Coxe

Somebody knows more than they’re saying.


31 posted on 08/28/2023 3:59:04 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: House Atreides

i saw it on twitter couple days ago

a ring cam video, it was dark and you could see a large white flash illuminating the surroundings theu the trees and sparking a small fire

i’ll look see if i can find it


32 posted on 08/28/2023 4:19:24 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Tench_Coxe

6 hours before the wildfires even started? Can you say “planned event”? I know you can.


33 posted on 08/28/2023 4:21:16 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: House Atreides

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/08/17/9162255621884038149/636x382_MP4_9162255621884038149.mp4


34 posted on 08/28/2023 4:22:56 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Tench_Coxe

“The utility said another afternoon fire started in the same area more than six hours after all of its power lines in West Maui had been de-energized, which could not be contained by the fire department and spread out of control toward Lahaina.”

Somebody is lying and trying to cover their rear ends here.


35 posted on 08/28/2023 4:23:44 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Tench_Coxe

Since the first conflicting reports came out, I was wondering how ‘islanding’ might have played a role in energizing the lines. No, that’s not a pun: It’s a solar energy term.

“Unintentional/unplanned islanding” = Non-utility power generation energizing grid power lines during a grid outage.

Solar systems are supposed to have anti-islanding installed to prevent such a scenario with grid-tied systems, but unintentional islanding is a factor.

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1560507

Site below contains a link to a long, technically detailed video for geeks:

Prevention of Unintentional Islands in Power Systems with Distributed Resources

https://www.nrel.gov/grid/ieee-standard-1547/prevention-unintentional-islands.html

I find it interesting that no one is publicly asking the right questions of Maui or HE officials...


36 posted on 08/28/2023 4:25:59 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Fungi

why are they putting fences around the burnt area?
Why no drone flights permitted?
Why no residents permitted to return to their homes?
Why is nobody permitted to stop and look or photograph?
Why excessive LEO presence guarding the crime scene?

Oops...did I say crime scene?

What are they hiding?


37 posted on 08/28/2023 4:29:54 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (Get involved with, or start a home fellowship group. It will be the final church. ACTS 2:42-47)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Only the gullible believe the Narrative on this one.”

You mean... narratives like ...

“Epstein killed himself”?
“The vaccines are safe and effective”?
“Jan. 6 was an insurrection”?
“The border is secure?”


38 posted on 08/28/2023 4:29:55 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Tench_Coxe

It’s not you.

It took them this long to decide to claim that the power was off hours before the grass fires?

Not buying it.


39 posted on 08/28/2023 4:31:37 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Don’t discount some puts flicking alit cigarette butt outthier car window while driving


40 posted on 08/28/2023 4:43:20 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & Subversion)
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