[zeestephen]

I am thinking this will be a VERY politically incorrect theory - Black African apes first evolved for five million years in western and central Europe?

Whoops!

[Gene Eric]

Human Origin ping

[Migraine]

In these times they are bound to call their find “homo” something-or-other.

Anyway, I’m not really qualified to offer an opinion on the age of the find since I’ve never dated a fossil (though some might disagree).

[rarestia]

Diminishing forests, eh? They must’ve migrated because of all the fossil fuel burning in Europe at the time. Those damn stone age SUVs.

[Vendome]

[SauronOfMordor]

Over the last several million years, we have had alternating glacial and warm periods, with life retreating south when ice covered Europe, and advancing north as the glaciers went away during warm periods.

Finally humans who mastered fire, home building, and could plan for winter could manage to stay in colder areas.

[Red6]

These theories like climate change, OOA, and others pick up inertia because they fit into a bigger paradigm.

Likewise entire empirical measures that can be repeated such as IQ or HIV infection rates based on sexual behaviors are discarded because they go against the paradigm.

So called “science” is a cheap whore. It tends to validate whatever folks want to believe, that which somehow supports the prevailing socially accepted goal or ethical standard.

[Clutch Martin]

Science is based on hypothesis, until it is observed, and until it’s proofed.

The problem of accepting various hypotheses, is the human nature to hang on to the work done and defend it until it is pryed from cold dead hands. People put a lot of work in those hypothesis, sometimes whole lifetimes and it’s an embarrassment to have your noteworthy hypothesis diminished in any way.

Unless it’s proven, absolutely confirmed. Which probably happens at a very low percentage rate.

There are a large amount sciectific ruminations of that aren’t in actuality “facts” at all.

A lot of hypotheses makes sense. Might even be true. But there’s no way of really knowing.

[Mark17]

The reasoning might go like this. How do you know it’s an 8.7 million year old fossil? Well it was in an 8.7 million year old rock. But how do you know it was an 8.7 million year old rock? Because there was an 8.7 million year old fossil in it. That’s like asking why is my friend not alive? Because he is dead.

[Flag_This]

So… not out of Africa?

[Tupelo]

Does this meant ‘Lucy’ has now been relegated to the back of the bus?

[Mashood]

Can we surmise that climate change is an on-going occurance... never static?

[Ex-Con777]

Well, there you have it. Monkeys moved around because of climate change and deforestation. It proves that man also had to be present with his gas stove and SUV causing the climate to change.

Proof!

EC

[SheepWhisperer]

Piltdown man

[Deplorable American1776]

I thought they were talking about Biden taking a trip to Europe. 🤓

[high info voter]

"bonobos, chimpanzees, and gorillas".......

After 8 million years they haven't evolved yet into humans???

[SMARTY]

I have never believed the ‘Out of Africa’ stuff.

Too much evidence to the contrary is proving it was always a political ‘construct’’ and nothing to do with science

[Salman]

Human origin story rebooted every few years, not unlike origin stories in superhero comics. {snicker}

[nagant]

Like many other writings this writeup describes climate “migrations” as if they represent primates and hominids traveling hundreds of miles with all of their belongings.

This supposition is not logical. It’s far more likely that traveling climate trends favored individuals in one area, and killed off individuals in the areas left behind.

[Labyrinthos]

This migration, he added, was "probably a consequence of changing environments and diminishing forests."

Climate change before the advent of climate change.

[Scrambler Bob]

So, what was this fossil?

One of God’s tonail clippings?