Posted on 08/11/2023 9:49:01 PM PDT by ransomnote
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 08/11/2023 Vol.469, Q Day 2114, numberonepal wrote: It's all a coincidence don'tchaknow.
A few days ago, I commented dryly on an FR article describing nuclear power as 'clean' energy, noting that it wasn't clean when Fukushima blew nuclear core material into the air, soil and water. Same with Chernobyl.
My comment triggered the wrath of pro nuke peeps - who quickly and repeatedly demanded the subject of my comments become focused coal fuel (it's a nuke lobby thing, change the subject to solar/wind/coal and never discuss nuke).
When I recognized stale old arguments, including the assertion that I should be more concerned about kitty litter and granite counter tops (seriously - they meant it, well they wanted me to think that it was legit), I had enough nonsense and bowed out, not wishing to waste my time. One advocate kept after me, taunting me and demanding I respond, telling me to compare/contrast alternative fuels etc. and asking me if I was equally afraid of sunshine I received during a day at the beach etc.
Oh and a key to his argument was to repeatedly talk about my emotions, fears. He never would acknowledge that I could have based my comment on anything other than 'hysterical' over reaction due to ignorance. He'd ask what influenced my emotions to have such 'fears' etc.
So today's 'coincidence' made me cringe for more than one reason. *cringe* So the WEF is all about Hawaiian energy. They almost had a 5 year delta...
Btw, you’re appearing to be the master digger of renoun, here. Your instincts for weaving dots and directing them into real time and live action defines the real Q “Anon”. In fact, real Anons were always rare.
In the beginning of Q Thread, fresh off discoving 4 chan, a few IQ minded freepers here kicked some doors in, themselves. You remind me of that class. A synthesizer par excellà nce.
Now shut-up and keep typing.😄 Luff your stuff.
“She” is too lazy for that plus they grifted the system for over $200 million dollars so why would “she” want to work hard?
People can think whatever they want.
Hawaii-—entirely clean energy? Not gonna happen for a real, really long time. The HQ of Hawaiian Electric would first have to be bombed. Those folks will fight it tooth and other misc. parts.
On Oahu electricity is now 35 cents/kilowatt-hr more or less. All the islands are oil fired and while they encourage solar panels, they are as backward as can be in making them work. If one panels his roof the best he can do is go to zero on the power bill but even at that there is still a minimum charge just for being hooked up. If one over generates they will not pay back for the power that gets dumped to them. Meters won’t run backward either.
About 1968 I sat in on a conference that was chaired by the HECO VP of engineering. At the time they were buying sweet oil for 1.50/barrel. He was asked how high oil would have to go for Nuke power to be economical. He said it would have to double to 3.00/barrel.
That ship came and sailed in the oil embargo of 1973 and, still nuke power was never mentioned again. This, in spite of Pearl Harbor Nuke Division being one of the best sources of Nuke related experience anywhere on the planet. Half of the US Pacific Fleet is nuke powered-——but the Islands-——nnnnoooowwwwaaaayyy. They will fight you to the last dimokrat.
As a side note, at the time, the nuke plant builders were thinking BIG. They only wanted to build plants of 500 megawatts and bigger. The HECO guy claimed they just didn’t need that much power. That was before Sears started selling air conditioners?
As a professional Mechanical Engineer, still registered in Hawaii I’ve done the numbers on these options many times. But the politicians just can’t figger out a way to feed off of nuke power.
Re I WILL CLEAN IT UP:
MAGA!
Cottage industry of fakery/kookdom is what’s going on.
Fantastic, was in my pipeline to post, so I’ll ping my list to it.
Ping to a great article posted by Squidpup before I got to it!
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4174609/posts?page=589#589
https://badlands.substack.com/p/clowns-in-america
Clowns in America
Admit Nothing; Deny Everything
JOE LANGE
AUG 14, 2023
....
“This war against the cabal has been a military operation from the beginning and there were patriots fighting the good fight in this war before Trump ever became president. The PDB that Bush had turned into a cabal tool of control over the presidency, was turned around on the enemy and used to expose their treason. It was the perfect boomerang.
You’re lucky.
The thread poster might have banned you to festival, or posted your “dry comment” as an example, by Alinsky.. to “freeze, isolate, and ridicule” as a troll, liar and infiltrater, after posting FR Rules.
You were blessed to comply and run along, not for the sake of accuracy, but for the peace of the manifest herd-think. Bummer.
:: But the politicians just can’t figger out a way to feed off of nuke power. ::
That’s what is known as “stopping power”.
The No Grifting Zone.
Nuke plants, once in “steady-state” have no good cause for an increase in rates.
Palisades, here in Michigan, received then abandoned it’s 20-year extension and shut down in favor of \subsidies\ for solar and wind.
i’m trying to be funny...not knocking.
BTTT!!!
You mean like fentanyl?
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