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Revisiting whether COVID-19 really killed several anti-vax conservative radio hosts
American Thinker ^ | 15 Jul, 2023 | Cicero2020

Posted on 07/15/2023 5:23:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

At the height of the COVID-19 fear porn propaganda campaign in 2021, we were bombarded with “news” of several prominent anti-mask and anti-COVID-19 vaccine conservative media personalities who died after contracting COVID-19.

The “experts” assured us that these deaths were absolutely caused by COVID-19. Any other theory or narrative from qualified medical professionals was heresy, and anyone who advanced such a position risked banishment from social media, firing, and possible loss of his or her medical license.

Then, last May, a study was published that indicated that many, if not the majority, of COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, placed on ventilators, and subsequently died had Ventilator-Associated Pneumonia. Since alternative treatments were, in effect, prohibited by federal regulatory agencies and financially incentivized hospital policies, these patients were given the toxic combination of officially approved Remdesivir and ventilator intubation. (See here and here.)

Alternative treatments such as Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were maligned as being “horse medicine“ and “fish tank cleaner,” respectively, despite being approved for humans decades earlier. “Dr. Science,” Anthony Fauci, led the charge against allowing physicians to use them off-label. Again, many state medical boards threatened doctors’ licenses in order to enforce their strict COVID-19 vaccine / ventilator / Remdesivir protocol.

In any case, the deaths of these men and other prominent anti-COVID vaccine / anti-mask conservatives deserve renewed investigation, given new studies that have been published since they died. It’s interesting that the senior author of one study has subsequently attempted to “clarify” the results of the Ventilator-Associated Pneumonia COVID-19 patient death study. I suspect that he may have been pressured by his superiors to issue that statement to stem the likely wrath of Big Pharma and the Biden Administration had the original interpretation been allowed to stand.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: alternatereality; americannonthinker; chinavirus; chinavirusvaccine; crazytown; gethelp; imaginaryworld; mortality; propagandapiece; seekhelpnow; straightjacket; ventilator
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To: DugwayDuke

Nobody here believes the vax propaganda from the CDC, their credibility is completely gone.


21 posted on 07/15/2023 7:17:33 AM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: MtnClimber

“Alternative treatments such as Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were maligned as being “horse medicine“ and “fish tank cleaner,””

Water??! On plants?? Water’s the stuff in toilets! I ain’t never seen a plant growing from a toilet.


22 posted on 07/15/2023 7:20:54 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: MtnClimber

I’m not convince ventilator work in 90-95% of the patients they are used on. Covid19-21 or otherwise.


23 posted on 07/15/2023 7:23:24 AM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: MtnClimber

Early in the fraudemic, I had an ER visit for a non covid problem. Checked out well, no stroke, but low on potassium. ER doc provided a script for potassium and also gave me a script for Ivermectin. Surprised I asked about why and he said, keep it close in case you may need it. Found a drug store which would fill it, after CVS said no. It sits in my emergency container now. No surprise, he is my neighbor!


24 posted on 07/15/2023 7:23:59 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: wjcsux; DugwayDuke

Duke! Didn’t you an I just have a long convo about credibility?

And now here you are again... as if this conversation never happened.

Weird how no amount of rational thinking, discussion, conceptualizing and postulating will budge you from your position, isn’t it?


25 posted on 07/15/2023 7:24:45 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Mouton

XD XD... in a bad situation. he knows where some is.


26 posted on 07/15/2023 7:26:20 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: DugwayDuke
When will the purveyors of the anti-vaccine propaganda that resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths face the consequenes of their actions?

When honest answers are provided by autopsies as to actual causes of death.

27 posted on 07/15/2023 7:32:32 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: Owen

Hey! Gang’s all here. You must travel in packs.

“imagined death conspiracy.”

You mean the ‘rona cutting down the population like a scythe of death? I’m paraphrasing, but do you remember where that came from?

That one was a doosy, Owen. too bad you can’t buy credibility, huh?


28 posted on 07/15/2023 7:32:58 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: DugwayDuke
You’re forgetting the large numbers who wanted the FDC to withdraw the vaccines from the public.

You’re forgetting the large numbers who wanted the FDC to withdraw the vaccines from the public due to the Excess Deaths Reports, which the CDC constantly changed the conditions of to hide the deadly effects of the clot-shots.

There. Fixed it.

29 posted on 07/15/2023 7:40:42 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: MtnClimber
The “experts” assured us that these deaths were absolutely caused by COVID-19.

I welcome such statements from the 'experts', as it exposes an undeniable hypocrisy.

Stating the obvious, these same people - including some here at FR - besmirch, lie, attack and professionally persecute all who attempt to target the clot shots as culpable in deaths of the so-called 'vaccinated'.

Yes, I agree it's time to 'revisit', but across the board. No one has yet proposed sanctions against those who used their positions to professionally persecute while adhering to their Hippocratic Oath, let alone those who abused the public trust by weaponizing their bureaucracies against them. Wray is one such figure appropriately under scrutiny in Congress, but we all expect that it's likely just song & dance (i.e., nothing will come of it absent a special committee & counsel to also help restore government integrity - ahem - and the offices of IG across the board).

Until the medical field has restored credibility, 'revisiting' only what's outlined by the author is rendered moot in the larger scheme of things.

30 posted on 07/15/2023 7:50:04 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Sarcazmo

Sarcazmo wrote: “Weird how no amount of rational thinking, discussion, conceptualizing and postulating will budge you from your position, isn’t it?”

The weird thing is why do some continue to swallow the propaganda from the anti-vaxxer fringe.


31 posted on 07/15/2023 8:11:25 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: RideForever

RideForever wrote: “When honest answers are provided by autopsies as to actual causes of death.”

Of course, those ‘honest answers’ are those that agree with your beliefs.


32 posted on 07/15/2023 8:12:54 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: RideForever

RideForever wrote: “You’re forgetting the large numbers who wanted the FDC to withdraw the vaccines from the public due to the Excess Deaths Reports, which the CDC constantly changed the conditions of to hide the deadly effects of the clot-shots.”

You’re forgetting that those that wanted the CDC to withdraw the vaccines were relying upon emotion and propaganda and not facts.


33 posted on 07/15/2023 8:14:21 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
You’re forgetting that those that wanted the CDC to withdraw the vaccines were relying upon emotion and propaganda and not facts.

You're conveniently forgetting that the 'facts' from the CDC were manipulated to encourage more victims to take the clot-shots because they kept changing medical definitions, and discouraging early treatment that keeps people with CoVID alive. The political manipulation to avoid the successful protocols of Dr. Zelenko with early treatment with HCQ and Ivermectin was downright criminal, and you supported denying it, knowing that any treatment would deny the Emergency Use Authorization.

34 posted on 07/15/2023 8:35:50 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: RideForever

RideForever wrote: “You’re conveniently forgetting that the ‘facts’ from the CDC were manipulated to encourage more victims to take the clot-shots because they kept changing medical definitions, and discouraging early treatment that keeps people with CoVID alive. The political manipulation to avoid the successful protocols of Dr. Zelenko with early treatment with HCQ and Ivermectin was downright criminal, and you supported denying it, knowing that any treatment would deny the Emergency Use Authorization.”

The manipulation of ‘facts’ was far more prevelent in the anti-vaxxer community. BTW, here are some fact checks on ivermectin ahd HCQ:
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/scicheck-evidence-still-lacking-to-support-ivermectin-as-treatment-for-covid-19/

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/scicheck-no-new-revelation-on-hydroxychloroquine-and-covid-19/


35 posted on 07/15/2023 8:48:46 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
The manipulation of ‘facts’ was far more prevelent [sic] in the anti-vaxxer community.

I doubt you have a reference for that lie, what with the CDC changing the definition of 'virus' and 'natural immunity' in pursuit of illegal gain-of-function DNA manipulation of the human genome outside of a lab.

We know that the Feds were prevented from promoting clot-shots under a EUA if treatment existed, and Dr. Zelenko had several hundred CoVID patients successfully treated with 1 - 3 deaths. As hundreds more were treated, the death rate from his treatment remained a handful or less. Everyone had the knowledge then of what was going on, with 'cheerleaders' like you pushing '... ignore the treatments, ignore the survivors, ignore the Excess Deaths, ignore the lack of autopsies, ignore the flow of money into Big Pharma and Big Med.".

And CoVID is STILL about the internationally outlawed gain-of-function by recklessly messing with human DNA outside of the confines of a lab.

Local news up here ran a story about CoVID passing to deer populations that reinfect the human population. Gives a new definition of 'herd immunity', doesn't it?

36 posted on 07/15/2023 9:43:21 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: DugwayDuke
anti-vaccine propaganda that resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths

Let's see the numbers.

37 posted on 07/15/2023 9:59:53 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Don W

You’re wasting your time arguing with the Duke.


38 posted on 07/15/2023 10:00:25 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: RideForever

DugwayDuke wrote: “The manipulation of ‘facts’ was far more prevelent [sic] in the anti-vaxxer community.”

RideForever wrote: “I doubt you have a reference for that lie, what with the CDC changing the definition of ‘virus’ and ‘natural immunity’ in pursuit of illegal gain-of-function DNA manipulation of the human genome outside of a lab.”

All you have to do is research the snake oil cures put forwrd by Zelenko and others and you’ll see that my statement isn’t a lie.


39 posted on 07/15/2023 10:00:46 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: MileHi

MileHi wrote: “Let’s see the numbers.”

Over 1.1 million deaths from COVID in the USA alone. The vast majority were unvaccinated. Those spreading misinformation to discourge vaccination bear responsibility for many of these preventable deaths.


40 posted on 07/15/2023 10:23:25 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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