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Should You Learn to code? Perhaps not for long
Hotair ^ | 07/05/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 07/05/2023 9:43:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

During the period when social media was increasingly putting pressure on legacy media outlets, driving down their profits, a phrase crept into the national lexicon. “Learn to code.” While it was no doubt said in a derisive or at least humorous fashion by most, it carried an underlying assumption that most people accepted. Perhaps you should learn to code. That’s where the jobs of the future would be. But the period when that will be true may turn out to have a much shorter lifespan than anticipated. The rise of Artificial Intelligence and chatbot apps is already automating the work of developing code and some coders are already losing their jobs. The CEO of one emerging AI company made a “provocative prediction” this week, saying that in five years’ time “there will be no programmers.” (Decrypt)

Emad Mostaque, founder and CEO of Stability AI, has a provocative prediction as artificial intelligence (AI) increasingly transforms our world: “There will be no programmers in five years.” Indeed, the futuristic CEO seems to envision a near-future shaped by the capabilities of AI.

Mostaque talked about the current status of the AI industry and his vision in an interview with Peter H. Diamandis for the Moonshots and Mindsets Podcast. And that vision, he said, can only go peer forward as far as five years.

The future doesn’t look too bright for human coders, Mostaque concluded—and there is some evidence to back his argument.

Mostaque’s warning very likely isn’t just hyperbole or some marketing angle. One recent study showed that more than 40% of all code being developed today is being written entirely or at least in part by AI. That number is only expected to increase. If you can have a machine do most of your coding for you, why bother paying a bunch of humans who demand to be paid, receive benefits, and occasionally go on strike?

According to the Wall Street Journal, the process has already begun. An increasing number of tech companies have already begun shifting programmers to other duties or pushing them out the door entirely.

Want to know if artificial intelligence is going to eliminate millions of jobs? The first place to look is the industry that birthed the technology.

AI seems set to do to computer programming—and possibly other kinds of so-called knowledge work—what automation has done to other jobs, from the factory floor and the warehouse, to the checkout aisle and the call center. In those industries, the end result of widespread automation has been the elimination of countless roles—and their replacement with ones that require either relatively little skill and knowledge, or a great deal more, with workers at either end of this spectrum being rewarded accordingly.

In other words, software is eating the software industry.

Nobody should be snickering at the programmers over the irony of their industry being decimated by something of its own creation. Other jobs across the “knowledge work” industry are being eliminated. And as AI is increasingly incorporated into robotics, many other types of jobs will almost certainly follow.

That may work out for a while in terms of corporate profits, but as we’ve discussed here previously, the long-term prospects don’t look good at all. You can unleash your new AI and tell it to start writing code for you to produce a specific function and it will do so. It might even do a great job and finish it more quickly than a human coder could. But that’s all it will ever do. It will never be innovative and come up with something better. It is simply copying the work of the humans that came before it.

You can ask ChatGPT to write you a song on any subject you like and it will quickly comply. But it’s never going to produce a stirring piece of truly original music. It’s just stitching together the lyrics of people. If AI fully takes over either programming or music, both of those activities will stagnate. So perhaps there won’t be giant robots coming to throw you into labor camps. But if they put everyone out of work, the effect won’t be much different.



TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: ai; coding; jobs; learntocode; no; programming
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To: backwoods-engineer

ChapGPT can work assuming everything takes “The Happy Path”, which basically happens once in a blue moon.


41 posted on 07/06/2023 5:20:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Or, programming will just be a part of a bigger job.

Just like all kinds of jobs, require some level of proficiency in Excel.


42 posted on 07/06/2023 5:22:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I love coding! I love all that other stuff too!

What I really need from AI is to go sit and vegitate at all my meetings for me.


43 posted on 07/06/2023 5:25:22 AM PDT by Theophilus (flush the alphabet soup!)
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To: rellic

Apparently, that’s a problem with ChatGPT, it doesn’t know when to stop making stuff up: “hallucinating”


44 posted on 07/06/2023 5:28:03 AM PDT by Theophilus (flush the alphabet soup!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I heard the same thing in 1985


45 posted on 07/06/2023 5:36:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Tom in Seattle
First, there’s a ton of existing code out there that needs to be maintained and improved.

Back in my day over %80 of the cost of a software system was in maintaining it. I suspect that is still true.

46 posted on 07/06/2023 5:37:01 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep the programmers and replace the USERS with AI. That would be progress.


47 posted on 07/06/2023 5:46:14 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: reviled downesdad

I always liked COBOL, it was way ahead of its’ time.


48 posted on 07/06/2023 5:47:12 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: joma89

“That’s a bingo! Teach your kids how to fix things in any trade. That knowledge will keep them free.”

Thanks, but not sure if it will keep them free - but it will give them the best chance of it!


49 posted on 07/06/2023 5:50:14 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: jpsb

I’ve written and maintained lots of COBOL code, but RPG and it’s many variations is my mainstay. But they all pretty much have the same basic model. Input, process, output.


50 posted on 07/06/2023 5:56:32 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: Theophilus

>> What I really need from AI is to go sit and vegitate at all my meetings for me.

LOL. I’m in alignment with ya there! (Writing while multitasking in yet another interminable Teams meeting.)


51 posted on 07/06/2023 6:46:26 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: AppyPappy

The last project I worked on before I retired was well over one million lines of code. It was written in Java, Java Script, Python, Fortran, C, C++, and TCL/TK.

You would have to teach AI to be really, really stupid to even attempt something like that!


52 posted on 07/06/2023 6:47:35 AM PDT by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: CodeJockey

>> Keep the programmers and replace the USERS with AI.

“PIBKAC”


53 posted on 07/06/2023 6:47:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BWAHAHAHAHAAH

This guys a liar, he’s just pushing this crap to put money in his pocket. The snake oil is deep right now in AI, and the naive are falling for it faster than they fell for self driving cars.

This guy is just another Elizabeth Holmes/Sam Bankman-Fried huckster.

Anyone believing programming is going away is a grade A fool.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/06/04/stable-diffusion-emad-mostaque-stability-ai-exaggeration/?sh=277a0f0775c5&fbclid=IwAR11UIyBvr94y41ZTcJmvlLdg17N6vOuPsjPIEUb_dKOnnodfCU1XjtVNe0


54 posted on 07/06/2023 6:55:20 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

This topic is waaay over my head. But I know what the tech advancements have done to farming. 60 years ago I was 9 and already a seasoned farmhand, driving equipment almost daily. The average cornbelt farm was about 240 acres, with 2-3 men doing the work.

Nowadays, with pesticides (weed and insect), programed computers, gps, and the interconnected systems, we are reaching the point where the farm tractor/combine/sprayer doesn’t need an operator riding it.

The farmer I help during spring planting and harvest covers almost 6,000 acres. 5 months out of the year he needs 6-7 people. The rest of the year 3 workers can handle the load.

Tech advancements have always reduced manpower requirements. Look at airliners: used to be 3 in the cockpit, now there’s 2.


55 posted on 07/06/2023 7:36:18 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Not only that, AI does not have Institutional Knowledge. If the user doesn’t know what they really want, AI is pretty useless to them.


56 posted on 07/06/2023 7:58:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: SeekAndFind

Artificial intelligence will never conquer natural stupidity.


57 posted on 07/06/2023 8:12:07 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: fuzzylogic
...well written requirements...

I've been in the industry for over 50 years. The last time I saw "well written requirements" was in 1973 when I wrote software for the Sky Lab mission.

Its been a crap shoot everywhere else unless I wrote the requirements myself.

58 posted on 07/06/2023 9:52:35 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Theophilus
...vegitate at all my meetings for me...

That is a stroke of genius.

59 posted on 07/06/2023 9:54:00 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: CodeJockey

One of my college professors told me that anyone who will program in RPG would suck eggs. ;-D


60 posted on 07/06/2023 9:55:23 AM PDT by GingisK
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