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Should You Learn to code? Perhaps not for long
Hotair ^ | 07/05/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 07/05/2023 9:43:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

During the period when social media was increasingly putting pressure on legacy media outlets, driving down their profits, a phrase crept into the national lexicon. “Learn to code.” While it was no doubt said in a derisive or at least humorous fashion by most, it carried an underlying assumption that most people accepted. Perhaps you should learn to code. That’s where the jobs of the future would be. But the period when that will be true may turn out to have a much shorter lifespan than anticipated. The rise of Artificial Intelligence and chatbot apps is already automating the work of developing code and some coders are already losing their jobs. The CEO of one emerging AI company made a “provocative prediction” this week, saying that in five years’ time “there will be no programmers.” (Decrypt)

Emad Mostaque, founder and CEO of Stability AI, has a provocative prediction as artificial intelligence (AI) increasingly transforms our world: “There will be no programmers in five years.” Indeed, the futuristic CEO seems to envision a near-future shaped by the capabilities of AI.

Mostaque talked about the current status of the AI industry and his vision in an interview with Peter H. Diamandis for the Moonshots and Mindsets Podcast. And that vision, he said, can only go peer forward as far as five years.

The future doesn’t look too bright for human coders, Mostaque concluded—and there is some evidence to back his argument.

Mostaque’s warning very likely isn’t just hyperbole or some marketing angle. One recent study showed that more than 40% of all code being developed today is being written entirely or at least in part by AI. That number is only expected to increase. If you can have a machine do most of your coding for you, why bother paying a bunch of humans who demand to be paid, receive benefits, and occasionally go on strike?

According to the Wall Street Journal, the process has already begun. An increasing number of tech companies have already begun shifting programmers to other duties or pushing them out the door entirely.

Want to know if artificial intelligence is going to eliminate millions of jobs? The first place to look is the industry that birthed the technology.

AI seems set to do to computer programming—and possibly other kinds of so-called knowledge work—what automation has done to other jobs, from the factory floor and the warehouse, to the checkout aisle and the call center. In those industries, the end result of widespread automation has been the elimination of countless roles—and their replacement with ones that require either relatively little skill and knowledge, or a great deal more, with workers at either end of this spectrum being rewarded accordingly.

In other words, software is eating the software industry.

Nobody should be snickering at the programmers over the irony of their industry being decimated by something of its own creation. Other jobs across the “knowledge work” industry are being eliminated. And as AI is increasingly incorporated into robotics, many other types of jobs will almost certainly follow.

That may work out for a while in terms of corporate profits, but as we’ve discussed here previously, the long-term prospects don’t look good at all. You can unleash your new AI and tell it to start writing code for you to produce a specific function and it will do so. It might even do a great job and finish it more quickly than a human coder could. But that’s all it will ever do. It will never be innovative and come up with something better. It is simply copying the work of the humans that came before it.

You can ask ChatGPT to write you a song on any subject you like and it will quickly comply. But it’s never going to produce a stirring piece of truly original music. It’s just stitching together the lyrics of people. If AI fully takes over either programming or music, both of those activities will stagnate. So perhaps there won’t be giant robots coming to throw you into labor camps. But if they put everyone out of work, the effect won’t be much different.



TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: ai; coding; jobs; learntocode; no; programming
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To: Theoria

That’s GOOD...


21 posted on 07/05/2023 11:01:20 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: DoodleBob

ROFL!
For the time being...


22 posted on 07/05/2023 11:02:07 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I *know* how to code.
I’m sick of coding.
I’d rather plow, mow, rake, bale, fence, plumb, wire, saw, wrench, nail, fish, garden, etc.
I want to see ShatGPT do *those things*.
Those are the things of reality, and life.


23 posted on 07/05/2023 11:07:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

AI is now reading medical x-ray images that once were the sole domain of radiologists. AI is also analyzing biopsy slides, once done solely by pathologists.


24 posted on 07/05/2023 11:20:27 PM PDT by rexthecat
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To: PhillyPhreeper

AI like humans is only as good as your data set.
We have the advantage of being creative, when data is missing.


25 posted on 07/05/2023 11:25:28 PM PDT by rellic
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To: SeekAndFind

it carried an underlying assumption that most people accepted. Perhaps you should learn to code.


No it didn’t. It was a contemptuous dismissal of journalists who had contemptuously, absurdly, and callously, dismissed the frivolous ending of livelihood for masses of the unwashed - where entire communities lost employment for a political virtue signal.


26 posted on 07/06/2023 1:01:09 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: flamberge

If we think developers notes are bad now...let AI go a bit. LOL


27 posted on 07/06/2023 1:06:40 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

Knowing how to code let’s you be part of the clean up team that does recovery once there’s been a breech


28 posted on 07/06/2023 1:22:20 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Tom in Seattle

Well said


29 posted on 07/06/2023 1:24:03 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: rexthecat

And 50 years ago ever-smarter electric typewriters started to be replaced by word processors that replaced more secretaries. ATMs started to replace bank tellers. Telecoms kept replacing more switchboard operators. We didn’t call all that AI.


30 posted on 07/06/2023 1:39:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BobL

That’s a bingo! Teach your kids how to fix things in any trade. That knowledge will keep them free.


31 posted on 07/06/2023 1:47:12 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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32 posted on 07/06/2023 3:23:43 AM PDT by jimjohn (We're at war, people. Start acting like it.)
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To: rellic

“Y’all see how far CASE got.”

Yep. We heard the same crap from the same ignorant idiots back 40 years ago. “CASE is going to replace programmers.”


33 posted on 07/06/2023 3:27:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, right.


34 posted on 07/06/2023 3:37:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Coders would move to formally defining requirements.


35 posted on 07/06/2023 4:12:54 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Tom in Seattle

I have a friend that is teaching new hires just out of college to code in COBOL for his company. There is a real need for code maintenance.


36 posted on 07/06/2023 4:19:07 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and hate you for it.)
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To: DoodleBob

Bingo!


37 posted on 07/06/2023 4:38:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rellic

Well, as somebody whom has been in software development for over 30 years, I think that is a vast oversimplification. Yes, this technology is in its infancy....but when the problem domain is complex AI falls apart, it will require extremely well written requirements. Currently it’s terrible with anything beyond boilerplate code snippets (although it’s very helpful for such code).

Unfortunately, the entire world still sucks at writing well written requirements. The only exception is when functional safety is required but, even then, problems creep in because something wasn’t defined correctly.

Even if you separate designers from coders, it still requires a painful amount of communication to get things right, even when you have well defined requirements and UML/SysML diagrams.


38 posted on 07/06/2023 5:05:49 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...There will be no programmers in five years...”

That’s because they won’t be called programmers. They will be called AI Engineers.


39 posted on 07/06/2023 5:16:12 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bunch of bull crap. ChatGPT isn’t going to replace Linus Torvalds, or even me. I’ve used CGPT to look up library calls, program invocations, etc. It is NOT creative. It seems to barely understand what I want to do. It sure isn’t writing my program for me.


40 posted on 07/06/2023 5:19:49 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2023 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
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