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The Lost Titanic Sub Didn’t Even Have a Basic Safety Beacon
Daily Beast ^ | Updated Jun. 20, 2023 5:41PM ET | Tony Ho Tran Deputy Editor, Innovation & Tech Justin Rohrlich Reporter

Posted on 06/21/2023 11:18:17 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Aircraft black boxes send out an ultra-sonic ping that sonar equipment can pick up if the box is underwater. The technology is there, and I’m guessing not super expensive. Seems like basic equipment for a commercial submersible designed to carry passengers.


61 posted on 06/21/2023 12:00:48 PM PDT by Roadrunner383
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To: qwerty1234

He really SAID THAT??
He’s an IDIOT!
OMG...


62 posted on 06/21/2023 12:00:51 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history.)
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To: MplsSteve

Sum of all fears...like being buried alive.


63 posted on 06/21/2023 12:01:07 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes. “A bunch of 50 year-old white guys with military submarine experience” would have quickly determined that the ‘adventure’ was far too risky, and kept a few people alive. Middle-aged while guys just don’t know how to have any fun...


64 posted on 06/21/2023 12:01:09 PM PDT by drwoof
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To: Roadrunner383

Only a 50 year-old white guy would think of such a thing!.........................


65 posted on 06/21/2023 12:02:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: LukeL

International waters... Also most ships have their feet held to the fire by the folks who insure them - not by the flags they sail under.

My guess is the company was NOT able to get insurance. Companies that insure ships don’t mess around ...


66 posted on 06/21/2023 12:03:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (Black dem thugs, white liberal 'elites', & sexual weirdos - democrat's team against the rest of us)
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To: Red Badger

I’m scratching “seeing what’s left of the Titanic” off my bucket list ...

... or maybe just moving “dying in a minisubmarine” down to the very bottom of the list ...


67 posted on 06/21/2023 12:04:38 PM PDT by x
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To: Red Badger

“The Titan is made of a combination of carbon fiber and titanium...”

Yeah and those were combined with an adhesive. I don’t know, maybe it really is a “super glue” but I, for one, wouldn’t trust an adhesive to keep the hull of my submersible together at 4,000 feet. I just have a mental image of a elephant stepping on a model airplane....


68 posted on 06/21/2023 12:05:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: LukeL

“I thought all vessels had to be certified by the coastguard or government they are registered with.”

Well, what if they just didn’t register it?

Checkmate, governments!


69 posted on 06/21/2023 12:06:49 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 1Old Pro

“I wonder who is paying for the millions to send in the recovery vessels.”

I’m going to take a wild guess and say probably the family of the billionaire who was onboard.


70 posted on 06/21/2023 12:08:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

That’s what I thought as well. I saw the video of when they put it together.

The titanium front dome with window is not, according to one article, guaranteed by it’s manufacturer for the depths that the Titanic is at...................


71 posted on 06/21/2023 12:09:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

I know a guy (also in Seattle, and a 60 year old white guy) that designs and builds submersible drill rigs that can be propelled to the ocean floor and drill into the sea floor a ways (100 feet?).

He was showing me the control system which was based around a gaming chair and gaming controls which he also bragged about how inexpensive they were compared to other systems.

Of course the chair and operator are on a nice ship at the surface while the drill rig is just a “robot” down in the depths.


72 posted on 06/21/2023 12:10:34 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: MplsSteve

Plus the heat. You might think it would be freezing on the bottom of the ocean but remember the gas laws. Lots of pressure on a fixed volume of gas = lots of heat too.


73 posted on 06/21/2023 12:11:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Reily

“One could say it’s a good training exercise for the Navy & CG.”

Maybe they’ll finally find that missing MH370 aircraft.


74 posted on 06/21/2023 12:11:09 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: LukeL

It was only used in international waters. A loophole I suppose.


75 posted on 06/21/2023 12:11:53 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Red Badger
Alvin is still going strong after almost 60 years.

They've had problems, but they've kept it safe with frequent inspections, disassembling and reassembling it over and over again.

It was built by General Mills of all people, but it's made out of more than cardboard and glue.

76 posted on 06/21/2023 12:13:38 PM PDT by x
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To: Bonemaker

I do not believe you can deliver oxygen or any gas mixture through a hose to 12,000’ depth.

Some better informed FReeper please correct me if that’s wrong.


77 posted on 06/21/2023 12:16:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It looks like a big grub. Maybe a giant squid tried to take a bite.


78 posted on 06/21/2023 12:16:36 PM PDT by jetson (chiwowa)
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To: Alberta's Child

The gravity of this situation aside it annoys me a bit when some ‘reporter’ offers his less than helpful opinion of the design of such a complicated device. Most folks in the ‘journalism’ business don’t know a crowbar from a cow but he feels that using scrap metal pipes for ballast qualifies as jerry-rigging. What does he think ballast is for? Ballast is usually dropped when the sub wants to return to the surface. Is the sub owner supposed to use custom designed gold bars for something that is going to be dropped into the depths and never retrieved? idiots ...

The same for the game controller that manages the sub’s navigation. Has anyone watched their kids play video games? There are more than enough switches and buttons to control a small sub’s attitude, speed, and direction. IMHO the game controller is a far better option than a laptop running Windoze 11.


79 posted on 06/21/2023 12:18:24 PM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: LukeL
In 2022, CBS reporter David Pogue ventured on the Titan to see the Titanic—he had to sign a waiver before diving that said the submersible was “experimental” and “had not been approved by any regulatory body.”

Also from the article.

The Titan is operated from the inside by a single round button that turns from red to green when pushed: “It should be like an elevator,” CEO Stockton Rush told Pogue in 2022, adding: “It shouldn’t take a lot of skill.”

Later in the video, Rush points to some piping inside the vessel saying he purchased it from RV supplier Camping World, and says “we run the whole thing” using a video game controller—Pogue also shows the vessel uses construction pipes as ballast.

80 posted on 06/21/2023 12:18:31 PM PDT by SJackson (he who controls the schools, controls the world, 1870s France)
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