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The Lost Titanic Sub Didn’t Even Have a Basic Safety Beacon
Daily Beast ^ | Updated Jun. 20, 2023 5:41PM ET | Tony Ho Tran Deputy Editor, Innovation & Tech Justin Rohrlich Reporter

Posted on 06/21/2023 11:18:17 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

VLF is prohibitively expensive and requires extremely long antennas and very high transmit power. They would likely not have the capability for it.


141 posted on 06/21/2023 1:51:33 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Red Badger

Sorry, meant to say VLF will only go about 120-150 feet max in water. ELF, which is used for even deeper stuff is pretty much limited to government use due to the cost and required equipment.


142 posted on 06/21/2023 1:55:07 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Boogieman
And maybe the cable would have cost more than the vessel they actually built.

I'm not an engineer but creating a cable tether would require a gigantic winch. It would have to be able to lift the 11,000 pound weight of the submersible (less any residual bouyancy), the weight of the 2+ miles of stout steel cable, and the force needed to rotate a huge cable drum, all the while overcoming any resistance the water imposes on the submersible which doesn't look very streamlined.

143 posted on 06/21/2023 1:59:13 PM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: Red Badger

Thanks Red! What an IDIOT!


144 posted on 06/21/2023 2:02:23 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history.)
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To: gibsonguy

We old white guys thank the Founder for his sacrifice.

Maybe next time the boss of another company will listen...


145 posted on 06/21/2023 2:09:38 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Hypoxia can also include a euphoric feeling, a high.

Why in today’s sinful world some experiment - one time only sometimes - with choking during sex........it’s sex plus hypoxia......both evil and deadly.....


146 posted on 06/21/2023 2:33:39 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: Red Badger

I was looking at their website (limited info). They show a computer animation of it being lowered with a tether all the way to the ocean floor. It is also rated to 6,000 meters (20,000 feet).


147 posted on 06/21/2023 2:56:05 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve
It is also rated to 6,000 meters (20,000 feet)."

Yeah, who rated it? The 25-year-old college grad surfer?

148 posted on 06/21/2023 2:58:43 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Henchster

From their website:

“Rated to depths of 6000m, the BMS set the world record for coring at depth (5815m) in 2006.”

Of course this is a robotic drill rig and doesn’t need to have anybody on board. Most of it is just open machinery, but I suppose housing the electronic controls at those depths took some engineering.


149 posted on 06/21/2023 3:03:31 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

I meant I’ll bet the Titan didn’t go through anything like that, just the surfer dude saying: “we’re good.”


150 posted on 06/21/2023 3:06:56 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Henchster

Oh - gotcha. The comments from the former employee are pretty damning.

I was watching a youtube by an engineer about that building that collapsed in Iowa and killed a few people. A contractor that proposed on the job lost out as he told them he would need another $50k (or something) to properly reinforce the building. They told him it wasn’t needed and he didn’t get the job.

He went back to the site daily to take photos and document the work from the street. The youtube engineer reviews the photos and makes comments showing all of the issues leading to the collapse.


151 posted on 06/21/2023 3:13:36 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 1Old Pro

He was dead at that point, yes?


152 posted on 06/21/2023 3:15:24 PM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: Red Badger

Mike Nelson shakes head


153 posted on 06/21/2023 3:21:21 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Gen.Blather
The fifty year old submariner at The Sub Brief goes over what he sees as several single points of failure

He says the crew is now dead, and he seems very credible.

154 posted on 06/21/2023 3:57:58 PM PDT by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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To: TChad

“He says the crew is now dead, and he seems very credible.”

The CEO had an idea, a vision and the money to carry it out. What he didn’t understand is what he didn’t know. There’s a reason those other companies hired the fifty-year-old white, former submariners. They had a career training for and living in a dangerous environment. There are actually black submariners, but retired ones too are fifty years old.

The navy keeps track of the number of dives and the depth they go to because the stress of those dives adds up and limits the lifespan of the sub’s hull. This particular sub had a carbon hull apparently designed by a former NASA engineer. I’m sure the designer calculated the stresses, but did he take into account the cumulative effect of those stresses? Probably not because he wasn’t, apparently, a naval engineer. Again, someone who doesn’t know what it is that he doesn’t know. I ran into this problem throughout my career; top level managers who had some knowledge about something but did not know what it was they didn’t know. It seemed the less they knew the more certain they were that their crazy idea, whatever it was, would work.


155 posted on 06/21/2023 4:12:48 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: All

Underwater sonar is picking up sounds like music . . it’s the theme song from Gilligans Island and the refrain “A three hour tour, a three hour tour” increased in volume. Nobody knows what to make of it.


156 posted on 06/21/2023 4:21:02 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was going to start procrastinating this year, I just haven't got around to it.)
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To: Red Badger

Why did they put the toilet next to the only window on the sub? !!
It should be in the rear. Yet another design flaw the ceo made.


157 posted on 06/21/2023 5:19:00 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Currents at the bottom could be bouncing the wrecked submersible against the hull of the Titanic, making a banging noise.

In the 1959 movie "On the Beach" all human life in the northern hemisphere has been killed due to a nuclear war a U.S. Submarine was sent to see if the radiation is dispersing and to find the source of a radioed telegram signal.

(From IMBD) "The submarine next stops at a refinery near San Diego, which has been pinpointed as the source of the mysterious Morse signals. A crew member discovers the power source is still running on automatic control. Nearby, a telegraph key has become entangled in a window shade's pull cord and a half-full Coca-Cola bottle, and is being randomly pulled by an ocean breeze, causing the radio signals. "

Something like that.

158 posted on 06/21/2023 5:38:33 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Or a giant squid.

That's my theory. I think they should be looking for a giant squid with a propane tank shaped bulge in its belly.

159 posted on 06/21/2023 7:22:29 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Sequoya; Pete from Shawnee Mission
Sequoya found the you tube for on the beach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2luo6jg4ac

160 posted on 06/21/2023 8:22:35 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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