Posted on 06/09/2023 4:39:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
According to explosive reporting, the powerful internal investigative body that oversees the nation’s intelligence agencies found a whistleblower’s claims of an illegal government UFO crash retrieval and exploitation effort to be “credible and urgent.” To eliminate potential ambiguity regarding such an extraordinary development, a knowledgeable source confirmed to me that the intelligence community inspector general found “allegations that there is a [UFO crash retrieval] program [to be] urgent and credible.”
Beyond this stunning revelation, the whistleblower — a former high-level intelligence official — is represented by a lawyer who served previously as the intelligence community’s first inspector general, a Senate-confirmed position. The managing partner of the law firm representing the whistleblower reportedly co-signed the complaint submitted to the current Intelligence Community inspector general. As noted in a legal analysis, no lawyer, let alone two high-caliber attorneys, would sign such an extraordinary document without “very credible source material.”
Importantly, current and former officials vouched for the whistleblower, David Grusch, while also corroborating the broad outlines of his allegations. Moreover, Grusch testified to Congress for hours, generating hundreds of pages of transcripts. Grusch also gave an exclusive interview to Ross Coulthart of NewsNation, which like The Hill is owned by Nexstar Media Group.
For their part, Grusch and other knowledgeable individuals who have spoken to investigators have little incentive to lie. “Knowingly and willfully making false statements” to the Intelligence Community Inspector General carries the risk of financial penalties and imprisonment. At the same time, two high-caliber attorneys appear unafraid of the potential legal jeopardy of filing Grusch’s complaint.
The facts enumerated above should, on their face, captivate every newsroom and living room in America. But there are reasons to be skeptical.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
But its stated objective is to present the actual news as opposed to "opinion as news" as done by MSNBC, CNN, et al.
What "powerful internal investigative" bodies and news media has is EXPLOSIVE REPORTING of bupkis. But very highfalutin bupkis.
There comes a point in a poker game where "put up or shut up" show your handm ante up or fold ends that game. This UFO game has gone on how long now?
Bupkis.
I lived in NM for 14 years. In the Western part of the state, up in the mountains most of that time.
Roswell, NM has been turned into a alien tourist trap. Nut cases are all over. Yes, there was a crash. Yes, they scrubbed the site.
Were they aliens? I seriously doubt it.
If they were, they were illegal aliens. hee hee hee
It is ironic that Goddard and German rocket scientists experimented at White Sands Missile Range after WWII.
I’m a ham op and a lot of my friends there in NM were too. Many of them worked at one of the labs or military bases.
It is somewhat like a sane Area 51.
Actual News?
We need a lot more of that.
That is possible.
This whistleblower (whistleblower is inaccurate in this case because he got the approval of The Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review) has already made his presentation to the classified committees of Congress.
As an aside, I don't think anyone of substance has drawn a conclusion one way or another re: these allegations. The DOD has denied their accuracy and NASA has denied any knowledge of such programs.
Right now all we have are some potentially earth-shattering claims on one hand and some vehement denials on the other.
As some on this thread have said, the jury will be out until something substantial (if not absolute proof) is delivered to the public.
Some have said that the "drip, drip, drip" of disclosure just turned into a spurt.
The answer to the problem of the Unidentified Flying Object is to identify it. Then we don't have to call it an "object." If there is any tangible and undeniable proof, that should be a piece of cake. Or a squirrel. Look!
I wonder, since the "competing claims" game of the last "pandemic" event has gone by, and the "competing claims" of the Ukie-Ruskie are (present tense) going by, whether this is all just "stoking" the media fires. Rabbit holes, once one chases down them, can occupy a lot of one's time and energy.
I think it was Phillip Klass that said that UFO witnesses were so easy to discredit. All you have to do is twirl your finger around your ear, smile, and shake your head knowingly. The public is anxious to know nothing.
This UFO claim is interesting, but it is way too early IMO to reach any conclusions.
You see a lot of concrete thinking (as opposed to abstract thinking) on these UFO threads because the subject matter is so paradigm-busting thinking styles devolve.
If true, everything we previously thought of as reality will be altered in some way. If untrue, then "whew."
You can't blame people for being extremely skeptical because the claims are like nothing ever before experienced on earth (even bigger than Cortes to the Aztecs). Very scary stuff.
Lalalala I cant hear you.
Klass was a piece of work. It wasn't necessary, but he was often intellectually dishonest...and wasn't above the personal destruction of his "debate" opponents.
Agreed. It would be quite interesting if proven to be true, but that has not happened. FWIW, such a revelation would not shake in the least my Christian faith. In fact, it might serve to deepen it.
Heheh. I find myself saying that a lot lately—to myself.
Distraction? Maybe.
But maybe just circumstantial evidence.
I'm not saying these allegations are true. But ignoring allegations until there is absolute proof is, well, illogical.
That's like your best friend tells you (in all seriousness) that your new girlfriend might be an axe murderer. And you say, I won't worry about the allegations until you give me absolute proof.;-)
More likely another psyop. For what purpose I have no idea. Just theories.
If all of this is true, then everything about the Biden/Red Chinese/Burisma criminal/warfare syndicates IS ALSO TRUE!!!
Here comes the big UFO scare we’ve been hearing about. 😏
That's why they haven't been arrested. They did nothing illegal.
I am chuckling a little, as over last night's dinner table we chatted about "scary stories." My BIL recalled -- with fondness -- the scary stories he was told over the campfire "way back when." And then another guest recalled her grandparents and their "fire and brimstone" stories of that era. Someone else brought up movies like "Halloween" and "Fright Night." And so on. We were, conversationally, off to the races.
About scary stuff.
As to space aliens and UFO sightings and wreckage, here is one salient point, divided into parts. If there are ACTUAL intelligent alien life forms visiting this planet, in truth, then even our nature of truth itself is suspect.
How about religious truth? Does Christianity apply to space aliens? How about Islam, so rooted in the sands of 7th century deserts.
How about science, so recently held up as truth, yet with competing opinions and theories. Space alien technology would far exceed our science.
How about political truth? Is something like "this" so shattering that we plebes must be kept from it?
How about all those branches of philosophy, winding their ways around understanding truth? Ontology? Epistemology?
Personally, at this time, I suspect we are either alone in the universe, or very close to being alone. Why? Adapting the curves of frequencies across the entire bandwidth of energy -- light, radio, x-rays, and all -- and bending these into an account of the red shift as Doppler affects how we perceive, there is a bandwidth of which our "betters" as aliens must be aware where there is little to no noise, and as such a very fine bandwidth on which to broadcast even a simple non-repeating signal. In that little trough, one hears nothing to date.
I am most willing to have my opinion changed, but not by speculation, opinion, and certainly not by "scary stuff" of Predator and Aliens and The Martians Are Coming.
Ray Bradbury said, more or less, all our stories about aliens are actually stories about ourselves. Sometimes the aliens come in peace, and sometimes they come to destroy. Depends on which story you tell, after all.
Being time-limited as an old codger and definitely biodegradable, the amount of CPU I spend on UFOs is little, and our courteous wee interchange of words and ideas has taken up much comparatively. Now I will go plant some more gladiola bulbs. Best wishes.
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