Posted on 05/31/2023 8:09:00 PM PDT by Lakeside Granny
Clandestine
@WarClandestine
People continue to ask me my take on the situation in Russia.
My take is, that until we actually see any proof of kinetic hostilities, there is no situation in Russia.
We’ve seen wild speculation and unverified reports, but on the ground it looks like a photo op.
But if you want to know what I THINK is happening; I think Prigozhin is doing what he always does, which is say crazy shit to create the illusion of disarray, to cover for Russian tactical movement/assaults.
Just like he did in Bakhmut, he claimed Russia wasn’t giving him ammo, he was going to pull all his troops out, wanted Shoigu’s head on a platter, etc., only to turn around and finish taking Bakhmut shortly after.
I think Prigozhin and Putin are conducting a psyop to disguise Russian troop movement to either launch an offensive, or coerce Ukraine into attacking.
The only place this is a civil war is on the Internet, because the 🇺🇦 folks are eager to say and believe anything to deflect from the catastrophic losses in their holy “counter-offensive”.
Just like Belgorod, in a couple days, the NAFO trolls will be on to the next thing because this turned out to be nothing.
But as always, we shall wait and see.
I just find it amazing how the 🇺🇦 folks say every single thing Russia says is disinformation, except when they are actually pushing disinformation 😂
The NAFO imbeciles are now worshipping the guy who conquered their sacred Bakhmut, all over unverified telegram reports.
How they haven’t considered this is disinformation, is baffling. Astounding.
They will believe anything they are told if it fulfills their fantasies of Russian defeat.
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1672469482868994049
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
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Absolutely crazy stuff going on in Russia right now
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
🚨COUP UPDATES: Putin Reportedly Leaves Moscow | Machine Gun Positions Around Moscow | Wagner Convoy Heads to Moscow
As the coup continues, here’s the latest updates from our various sources live on the ongoing Twitter Space:
- Worries of the Russian Nuclear Warheads moved to Belarus weeks ago
- Wagner forces continue their advance to Moscow with limited strikes by the Russian Air Force
- Reports of Putin and other officials leaving Moscow and heading to Saint Petersburg based on the movement of Military VIP aircrafts. TASS, which is Gov controlled media outlet, reported that Putin is heading to Saint Petersburg, but Putin’s Press Secretary refuted those reports. It is very unusual and rare to see such a disconnect between TASS and the Kremlin.
MY THOUGHTS:
- This is a military coup, we can no longer dispute this, and things are moving VERY rapidly and are not looking good for Putin.
- We are seeing limited military clashes, showing likely defections among Russian forces
- Almost EVERYTHING right now can’t be verified and should be taken with a grain of salt
(THIS IS AN EVOLVING STORY. UPDATES BELOW IN THREAD)
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1672581931739881473
on target
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actually the CIA is pretty good with that, but one day the chickens will come home to roost.
The sooner the better.
CIA has been rogue for decades.
73 more posts to #6000!
I suspect the evil Biden regime has their hand in this Russian turmoil. I don’t know what a good coup costs these days, but I suspect the miraculous accounting error that produced $6.2 billion dollars is about right. Sometimes it’s just too easy to connect the dots - they need to space their timing a little.
This Russua, Russia, Russia, thingy is proving to be quite a distraction from the Saga of the Hunter/Dadddy Joe Crimes.
Let’s see if it works.
General Mike Flynn
@GenFlynn
Ukraine is similar to Afghanistan.
These endless wars have to end. And what is currently happening in Russia may have unintended consequences for all of Europe and the world.
We are in another “be careful what you ask for” geopolitical scenario.
And don’t forget China is knocking at our door and this time off the coast of Florida—can you say Cuban Missile Crisis Part II?
Where are our leaders? The global crises unfolding are very real…and no one is home (sorry, forgot, he’s in the basement).
Lara Logan
@laralogan
John Kirby is a liar and a coward who sent our Afghan allies to their deaths without hesitating. He won’t comment on this because he’s protecting himself - not the Biden’s. They all know the ship is sinking & as rats do, they are looking for ways to save themselves. But it is too late for him. There is only one truth. Tick tock MF. On behalf of every Afghan snow living in hell & all those sent to early deaths, we cannot wait to see you held accountable.
Catturd ™
@catturd2
They commit treason then run when they’re asked about it.
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
🚨BREAKING: White House National Security Council Coordinator WALKS OUT after being asked about Hunter Biden’s WhatsApp messages with China implicating President Biden
THE MESSAGE:
“I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made was not fulfilled. Tell the director I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight.
And Zhi, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the Chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.”
Is this proof Joe Biden WAS involved in his son’s dealings while in office?
https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1672576462749065217
Reminiscence of the Future...
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/06/putin-verbatim.html#disqus_thread
Moon of Alabama
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/on-prigozhins-insurrection-farce/comments/page/2/#comments
One take here I think might be true
OK here is my theory, piecing together the likely facts:
1.There is a largish fifth column in Russia, including within the military. This 5th column was supposed to take over in 2022, when Russia was supposed to collapse. It did not fall and the fifth column was not activated
2. Wagner or some of them were always part of the deal- or at least in the negotiation phase
3. The existence of this 5th column is well known to Putin and co, which is one reason for the caution re Ukraine
4. Shoigu and Gerasimov have long known or suspected Wagner of being untrustworthy, which is one reason for using them in the hard task of Bakhmut
5. Several months ago Shoigu and the MOD had hard evidence of probable treachery, given at least one senior guy had defected. They also wisely feared Priggy as a populist danger in any upcoming election for President. Now recall when priggy started talking about being president. Many on here giggled and assumed he was trolling the Ukrainians, planning to take on Zely, but i ALWAYS assumed he was talking about the Russian presidency. Thought in fact it was pretty damn obvious.
6. MOD did start to restrict munitions deliveries to Priggy, because he was no longer trusted
7. Priggy started his over the top attacks on the MOD, confirming his untrustworthy status.
8. Information about Priggy talks with Ukraine came to light and Priggy started far more damaging attacks on the MOD
9. Putin's comments about parquet generals was essentially saying we have uncovered a nest of traitors, but for PR and morale we will just call them incompetent (which perhaps is also the case)
10. Priggy, encouraged by his new NATO paymasters, thought that the Russian defence would fail. Then Priggy would come a riding in as the saviour and deliver a coup in Russia. The one planned for 2022 that did not happen
11. The Ukrainian offensive failed and basically this coup is the last throw of the dice. Use it or lose it.
12. Having crossed the Rubicon so to speak Priggy has now gone full Ukraine
Posted by: watcher | Jun 24 2023 14:16 utc | 174
Exactly, Gran. Coups, wars, nukes in the wrong hands.....much more effective than a race against time to find a mini-sub.
This makes a lot of sense—thanks.
Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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For the record this is what a REAL insurrection looks like
I think Hunter Biden flipped awhile ago, realizing he was going to go down for Joe’s crimes at some point in the future.
As Q intimated, the Bidens are a very dysfunctional family, and Hunter is VERY troubled. Payback for Dad using Hunter as the procurer of bribes, at no risk to Dad? Hunter not wanting to be the patsy anymore?
Hunter had reason to come clean, and probably gave up a lot of other people in the process.
Survival is a very strong incentive.
Let’s see what happens.
LOL!
Flagpoles and red hats don’t cut it in Russia, obviously.
Ben Harnwell is skeptical about the whole thing being a serious coup. He’s not buying it for a minute. Says it looks staged.
Yup, Hunter has always been Joe’s Bagman.
Will Hunter take the fall for dear old Daddy?
As you said “Survival is a very strong incentive.”
So I think not.
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