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I had a relative, who went through this brutal treatment back in the 50's.

It was discussed once by my mother and like Marge Simpson, and said it will never be discussed again.

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1 posted on 05/14/2023 1:39:05 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Today, electric shock therapy has been shelved in favor of talk therapy... and opposite sex hormones and genital surgeries.


2 posted on 05/14/2023 1:40:37 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: DallasBiff

Is there a link to the entire article?


3 posted on 05/14/2023 1:41:14 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: DallasBiff

My father in law had it in the 60’s. His wife told me it helped. She told me he was suicidal after coming home from WWII—and had been a mess for years.

I’ve worked at a behavioral health hospital in the 2015-18 years and while it was used, it was very different from the “old days.”


4 posted on 05/14/2023 1:43:41 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: DallasBiff

It can help


6 posted on 05/14/2023 1:45:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: DallasBiff
Sorry about the missing link.

https://www.mytherapist.com/advice/therapy/the-history-of-electric-shock-therapy/

7 posted on 05/14/2023 1:48:36 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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Shock Therapy. Better than the good old fashined Frontal Lobotomy.

Just ask Rosemary Kennedy.


8 posted on 05/14/2023 1:50:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: DallasBiff

A friend defeated around 10 interlocks to get to the guts of a sputtering system, got a finger on a 10 Kv 10KHz power supply. His skin nearly vaporized.


12 posted on 05/14/2023 2:07:37 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: DallasBiff

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_undergone_electroconvulsive_therapy


16 posted on 05/14/2023 2:29:13 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: DallasBiff

Many Leftists need Shock Therapy...some have had it and need it again, some FR members need it as well.


19 posted on 05/14/2023 2:34:57 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: DallasBiff
more effective medications work similar to a short term lobotomy.

The cheap and over the counter methods that usually work:
1. high dose Niacin (Dr Hoffer)
2. Sarcosine which is a GlyT1 inhibitor
3. Aminobutyric acid
20 posted on 05/14/2023 2:44:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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https://1890swriters.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-charlatans-of-1890s-anti.html


21 posted on 05/14/2023 3:01:55 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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I have administered general anesthesia for 1,000’s of ECT’s. I am one of many healthcare professionals who’ve lost faith in the “System” after the pathetic and unethical mismanagement of the Covid farce. I can tell you though, that ECT is one of the most effective and humane therapies for numerous psychiatric conditions. Our patients were treated supportively and with utmost respect. All ECT’s in modern times are done under general anesthesia and at our facility with great consideration to minimizing post-op difficulties, such as headache, muscle aches, nausea, etc. Yes, I’ve heard all of the horror stories from past misuse of ECT, but I know of no facilities using the archaic and cruel methods of olden days. I can testify with absolute
sincerity that I’ve seen many, many miraculous recoveries due to ECT and have seen many, many patients maintained in a stable state with maintenance ECT’s as often as one every
1-6 months. We performed ECT’s on physicians, RN’s, physician assistants, CEO’s and many others from all walks of life. Many of our patients were able to return to work and normal lives. Often times, patients and their families stated clearly that they just wish they had known how effective ECT could be and how outmoded the horror stories were. Overcoming the terror and stigma related to these highly effective treatments was often the biggest impediment to early treatment. The miraculous recoveries gave many of us the most rewarding experiences in our careers. One time a previously vibrant, attractive young professional came into the hospital after a failed, attempted medical management of a severe, acute onset depression with psychosis, now catatonic. I anesthetized her for her 1st, 4th, and 9th ECT.
Typically, the regimen involved Monday, Wednesday, Friday treatments for 3-4 weeks and then 1 per week and then 1 per 2 wks. On the 1st ECT, she was very haggard, unkempt, and unresponsive. Her husband was despondent and at his wits end worrying about their 3 children. At the time of her 4th ECT, she was awake and responding. At the time of her 9th ECT, she was bright, beautiful, smiling and very grateful. Without witnessing the wonderful recovery, a person would not have believed she was the same person seen on day 1. This was just one of many similar recoveries I witnessed during 30 years of assisting with ECT. We almost always had nursing, medical, pharmacy, and other students observing and residents assisting. Our goal was to send these observers out into the world with the message that ECT is not at all performed in the primitive manner of early years and that it can be so much more useful if the dark stigma could be overcome and patients could present without the utter terror that is still too common.


27 posted on 05/14/2023 5:29:51 PM PDT by karbine
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To: DallasBiff

My younger years as an electrician and general geek for the power company could be misconstrued as shock therapy.


30 posted on 05/14/2023 6:37:06 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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I read a story in National Lampoon True Facts (unusual newspaper clippings) once about how they got a new electroshock machine in a British facility. But the patients were not convulsing when shocked. Someone decided the new machines didn’t make people convulse and for years they flipped the switch and observed results of people getting better over time due to shocking them.

Then a new nurse said “Hey, why isn’t the patient convulsing?”

“It’s the new machine,” they replied. “They don’t convulse.”

“No, I just came from a facility where they use this exact model and they convulse just like any electro-shock machine.”

Turns out it was broken and they began to wonder if shocking was really helping anyone.


33 posted on 05/14/2023 6:51:39 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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