Tucker unleashed? Talks about building 7 on 9/11

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[RandFan]

@nomandatesco

Tucker talks 9/11– What happened to building 7?????

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[servantoftheservant]

Dude. it’s a steel frame building. A couple of small fires does not cause them to implode like that in seconds.

It’s literally insane to posture that. You must take a central column from top to bottom at once in order for a building to fall on its own footprint.

[21twelve]

I recall one of the main anchors with the inset screen of the towers on fire getting in a field report.

“This just in, one of the towers has collapsed! One of the towers has collapsed!....um, well, um, the video that is up on the screen is live and both towers are still standing, so...”

About 10 minutes later (longer than a video delay for censoring) the first tower collapsed.

I’m guessing that the field reporter said something like “We have been told a tower maybe about to collapse and we are being moved away from the site.” And amidst the noise and confusion it was heard wrong.

[linMcHlp]

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/

“After 7 hours of uncontrolled fires, a steel girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to one of the 81 columns supporting the building. Floor 13 collapsed, beginning a cascade of floor failures to Floor 5.”

Hence, the dominos link of my previous reply.

[servantoftheservant]

Guy. Building 7 is the first and only steel frame building in history to supposedly fail due to fire.

It looks like you found a new way to perfectly implode buildings. Just blow a one steel girder on floor 13.

Maybe you can patent it or something.

But seriously, read this report by actually competent engineers and not idiot propagandists in Popular Mechanics

https://ine.uaf.edu/projects/wtc7/

[servantoftheservant]

Rebuttal:

https://ine.uaf.edu/projects/wtc7/

[Tom Tetroxide]

That is possible, but I doubt it. The reporter was getting too far ahead of the time line of the script.

[linMcHlp]

Interesting; thanks.

Yet, the building integrity failed.

[Faith65]

bkmk

[servantoftheservant]

So, every steel column in a building cannot fail nearly simultaneously in a way where it perfectly falls on its own footprint. Unless....?

(not answering that question is why that study is still published at University of Alaska)

[ExGeeEye]

I could tell you about the civil engineer on the phone during the event, talking about the other two buildings, who predicted

—that they would fall

—how they would fall

—in what order they would fall

—and the deleterious effect the fall(s) would have on surrounding structures

—that other buildings in the area, if not destroyed by falling fiery debris, would have to be demolished anyway

— all while they were both standing and smoking.

But of course such an engineer would be in the pay of the Paymasters, amirite?

[servantoftheservant]

Oh really.

Yes, please do tell us about this phone-in civil engineer who casually made a real-time prediction of the first and only failure IN HISTORY of a steel structure building due to fire.

What is his name?

[discostu]

She probably just flubbed the talk. Keep in mind 2 things:
1 - the British press was talking to smart people and predicted the collapse of the towers well in advance
2 - on scene reporters are mostly just saying what their producer (either in the ear piece while filming, or on the phone before) tell them to. TV likes to create the illusion that on scene reporters are talking about info they have because they’re there. But it’s not true.

So more than likely the same smart people that predicted the collapses of 1 and 2 told the producer 7 was doomed. They told her, and she either misheard or misspoke.

Cause really, if it was a conspiracy and they’d handed out the “script” to the international press don’t you think somebody by now would have written their tell all book? That script could make somebody very rich.

[ExGeeEye]

See here, with special consideration of the sixth line.

I remain convinced, based on that conversation, that if #7 had not collapsed from the damage it suffered, it would have had to be demolished anyway.

No one ever asks about any of the other buildings on this map

Literally ALL the buildings in the Ground Zero quadrilateral ended up demolished and replaced.

It's like only #7 matters.

I wonder why that is.

[NorthMountain]

Crap like this used to get people banned on this site.

A moderated forum tends toward petty tyranny.

An unmoderated forum tends toward unmitigated rubbish.

[servantoftheservant]

LOL!! These ‘smart people’ predicted the first and only failure of a steel framed building due to fire in history?

And let her know that every column would nearly simultaneously fail at once and implode the building perfectly on its own footprint?

And she took that and said ‘Building 7 is down’ ?

By your ‘logic’ Edward Snowden should be living the high-life because he ‘told all’. Seriously man, this isn’t Little House on the Prairie any more.

[ExGeeEye]

SHE was a friend of my sister’s, from Finland (where my sister was living and working at the time).

My sister brought her over ostensibly to visit our mother, and then to bring Mom and everyone visit me, but really because the two of them thought she (the engineer) would be a good match for me, both of us being single at the time.

We spent a few days with me playing tour guide around Grand Rapids, and down to the state Capitol. We sorta liked each other but... not that much.

Then they went back to Mom’s home, preparatory to flying back to Helsinki on Sept. 12.

but.

****

So there I was watching Fox news in the morning and was watching when (then) E.D. Hill said that there was news of a small plane hitting the WTC, and the reportage of this “accident” continued until the second plane went in. I knew, then, and I think so did everyone else who was watching, that this was a deliberate attack. I called my mother after the second plane to get her to turn on the TV, and we all talked to each other (Mom’s was a big house and had three extensions on the line) while watching the coverage...

Her name was Raila. I forget her last name at the time, and we both eventually married other people closer to our respective homes. My sister may still be in touch, I don’t know; she and her husband are starting a trip through Europe this month beginning in Helsinki.

I do recall that within a couple years of 2001 Raila was employed by the city of Espoo, Finland, in an engineering capacity.

[servantoftheservant]

I simply don’t believe you. There is no way any engineer on earth would predict what happened to Building 7 from some small fires is because it had never happened before or since.

The..
- nearly simultaneous collapse of every steel column all the way down to the earth
- in a way that it collapses on its own footprint

..can only happen one way. Period.

Read some actual engineering:

https://ine.uaf.edu/projects/wtc7/

[ExGeeEye]

...implode the building perfectly on its own footprint?

Well that didn't exactly happen, did it.

Not debris, just something else that is unpossible because it was missiles or deliberate demolition or something:

[discostu]

Not just due to fire. Also having a whole bunch of building land on it. And no they didn’t say it would be simultaneous or anything like that. Merely “building 7 is going down”. And she dropped a word. And the idiot conspiracy nuts run with it.

Again: if she had a script how many scripts must have been distributed? And why have none of these people decided to get rich? “Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.” How many hundreds of people have “kept” this “secret” for 22 years? By your “logic” there should be no intel leaks, because everybody on the planet keeps their mouth shut.

[ExGeeEye]

I simply don’t believe you.

Somehow, I think I'll survive.