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WHEN STEVIE NICKS ‘COMPLETELY’ RIPPED OFF THE POLICE
Ultimate Classic Rock ^ | March 18, 2023 | Martin Kielty

Posted on 03/18/2023 9:03:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Stevie Nicks was very clear on what she wanted to achieve when she turned her attention to recording “Edge of Seventeen.”

She later admitted that she’d never heard a dove’s call, even though the Fleetwood Mac icon represented it in her vocals. There was also a song by the Police that she wanted to imitate: “Bring on the Night,” from 1979’s Regatta de Blanc.

Guitarist Waddy Wachtel was lost. “I had never heard ‘Bring On the Night,’” the Bella Donna sideman told Musician in 1999, “and at that session they told me they were going to do this song based on this feel. I had heard something about the Police, but I didn’t know what they were talking about.”

In fact, he didn't completely appreciate the similarities between “Edge of Seventeen” and “Bring on the Night” for years. “I had the radio on, and on comes what sounds like ‘Edge of Seventeen’ – and all of a sudden, there’s Sting’s voice!” Wachtel said. “I thought, ‘We ripped them off completely!’ I called Stevie that night and said, ‘Listen to me: Don’t ever do that again!’”

She was more careful next time. “Stand Back,” from her very next solo album The Wild Heart, was directly inspired by Prince’s “Little Red Corvette.” This time, she spoke to Prince and actually got him involved in the recording.

Decades later, Wachtel admitted there was an upside to having borrowed the Police riff. “Onstage, the beginning of that song is like a break for Stevie,” he said. “I’d be standing there, playing that riff for around three minutes, before she’d even start singing! By the end of the tour, I was able to break walnuts with my right hand!”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: cocaine; music; plagiarism; stevienicks; thepolice
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To: higgmeister

i agree with you


21 posted on 03/19/2023 12:03:55 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Drew68

I always thought she was pretty hot myself... Liked the music too.


23 posted on 03/19/2023 4:01:56 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: NWFree
I'm very familiar with both songs and it's quite a stretch to say that one is a ripoff of the other. Totally different songs.

Our opinion differ on The Police, which were one of the top bands in the world for a short time between the late 1970s and early 1980s. The musicianship between the three of them was incredible. But they could not get along and so broke up after just five albums.

Sting was the primary songwriter in the band and the other two members seemed to resent it. But as much as Andy Summers is a great guitarist and Stewart Copeland is a great drummer, they could not begin to match Sting on writing lyrics and music.

Nonetheless, Sting typically let the other two write at least one song for each album and they were for the most part pretty awful.

Consider the non-Sting songs on their final album "Synchronicity":

Andy Summers (Police) - Mother

Stewart Copeland (Police) - Miss Gradenko

They should have just stuck to their instruments and let Sting write all the songs.

24 posted on 03/19/2023 4:25:30 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,942,927 Truth | 87,539,833 Twitter)
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To: mylife

Me either. I always preferred Christine’s voice.


25 posted on 03/19/2023 4:53:33 AM PDT by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Seruzawa

Everything is a rip off of Pachelbel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxC1fPE1QEE


26 posted on 03/19/2023 5:10:00 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: nickcarraway

Speaking of riffs - just watched “The Wrecking Crew” on Prime - lots of good music and things I never knew...


27 posted on 03/19/2023 5:14:42 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: SamAdams76
Sting was the primary songwriter in the band and the other two members seemed to resent it.

That is true, but Sting was the one the girls went crazy over, and that was what the other two resented most.

28 posted on 03/19/2023 5:23:06 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: mylife
“I’d be standing there, playing that riff for around three minutes, before she’d even start singing..."

Even a short break is a good break from hearing Stevie Nichs singing.

29 posted on 03/19/2023 5:29:13 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (You can never have enough clamps. Thanks Ben.)
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To: nickcarraway

So THAT’s what “defund the police” means.


30 posted on 03/19/2023 5:59:43 AM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Seruzawa
Yes to all of the above, and young Beethoven ripped off Mozart, and no doubt Mozart ripped off... someone.

They all rip each other off. Those who are really in the know about music might say something about some sort of "evolution" or something.

And here these rock 'n rollers are, complaining about "He stole my riff, man!"

Pffft. First world problem.

Oh yeah. The Doors ripped off the old Ajax commercial... anyone remember that?

31 posted on 03/19/2023 6:23:29 AM PDT by OKSooner (Rand for Minority Leader after Mitch is gone for good, if not sooner.)
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To: nickcarraway; All

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6B6CyZHnZU


32 posted on 03/19/2023 7:17:48 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: OKSooner

Stronger then dirt.


33 posted on 03/19/2023 12:01:04 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Drew68

34 posted on 03/19/2023 12:03:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: higgmeister

:)


35 posted on 03/19/2023 1:22:18 PM PDT by OKSooner (Rand for Minority Leader after Mitch is gone for good, if not sooner.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, the drum intro (hi-hat 16th notes and bass drum on the “and” of 1 and 3) are the same, and the guitar 16th-note intro is very similar. This was intentional and has been known since the song came out, of course. (the great Russ Kunkel on that drum track)


36 posted on 03/19/2023 2:56:46 PM PDT by ncdrumr (Oooh, SarahCUda!)
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To: OKSooner
..than dirt.   What can I say?
37 posted on 03/19/2023 3:47:52 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister
Stronger then dirt.

Jim Morrison thanks you for that reference...

38 posted on 03/19/2023 4:22:29 PM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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