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An Arizona teacher claims her credentials means she outranks parents
American Thinker ^ | 20 Feb, 2023 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 02/20/2023 10:31:05 AM PST by MtnClimber

What she said is what many teachers think, and it’s a concept that needs to be destroyed to protect America's children.

Before women’s lib, America’s teachers were often the best and brightest women in a college class because teaching was one of their few career options. Since women’s lib, the women who achieve academically usually choose majors other than teaching. Teachers today tend to fall into two categories: (1) A small number of men and women (usually conservative) with a real passion for education and (2) insecure, narcissistic people who struggle academically and look to a room full of helpless children to validate their ideology and sexuality. Alicia Messing, an Arizona educator, definitely falls in the second category.

Messing came to our attention because she testified before the Arizona Senate Education Committee to protest Arizona bill SB 1700, which will amend Arizona’s existing education laws to give parents the right to review and, through a defined procedure, to seek to remove inappropriate books from libraries and classrooms, especially books that promote non-traditional sexual and gender roles or that normalize pedophilia. Incidentally, as little as twenty years ago, this kind of thing went without saying. Now, thanks to leftist incursions in education, it’s a fight.

And in the frontline of the battle to preserve teachers’ rights to inundate children with inappropriate material stands Alicia Messing, the proud holder of a Masters’s degree in education. Messing believes that this degree gave her superpowers that raised her to a degree of enlightenment that, in her own mind, must go unchallenged, especially by those brutish troglodytes known as parents. She didn’t say that explicitly but she sure said it implicitly:

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TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: arizona; arth; communism; education; parentalrights; teacher; teaci
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To: MtnClimber

Home schooled kids always do far better, on average, than kids do in public schools, and public school kids have far more money per pupil.

I’d say public school teachers do far worse, nationally, than unknown educational statuses of parents with cheap materials and no special school building or resources.

This fraud of a teacher is making a case to abolish public schools.


41 posted on 02/20/2023 11:28:47 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: MtnClimber; 6amgelsmama; 100American; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

42 posted on 02/20/2023 11:29:45 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: MtnClimber

What is sad is that the school system is STRUCTURED to encourage this type of thought. Get rid of one teacher that ignores the fact that they work for and are employed by the parents, and another teacher union bot will take their place.


43 posted on 02/20/2023 11:32:20 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: dfwgator

I well remember when they were executed by firing squad. It was on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. Boy, were they hated…


44 posted on 02/20/2023 11:44:49 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: Mr.Unique

I here the Bates motel is hiring…


45 posted on 02/20/2023 11:46:50 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: MtnClimber

The dumbest person I know is someone who has three PhDs...


46 posted on 02/20/2023 11:48:41 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: MtnClimber

47 posted on 02/20/2023 11:53:08 AM PST by simpson96
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To: Jolla

What have parents got?

They have children who are NOT YOUR CHILDREN.


48 posted on 02/20/2023 11:56:16 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Good point, I thought of that later. The parents did have children they provided to give that teacher her job.


49 posted on 02/20/2023 12:01:05 PM PST by Jolla
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To: MtnClimber

“Before women’s lib, America’s teachers were often the best and brightest women in a college class because teaching was one of their few career options.”

Horsehockey. The WSJ investigated college majors for difficulty and the intellectual ability of those enrolled.
Journalism finished 2nd from the bottom.
Education finished at the bottom.
When I was in college in the sixties, a typical education major was making collages instead of studying.


50 posted on 02/20/2023 12:25:14 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: MtnClimber
What have parents got?

The children, you commie hag.

Yet another reason I homeschool.

51 posted on 02/20/2023 12:31:50 PM PST by SIDENET (Whatever they're threatening, the vaxx is worse. Don't give in to coercion. )
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To: MtnClimber

What have parents got?

/\

No college loan debt
little miss dumba$$.

Just cuz you got suckered out of thousands for a worthless meaningless “ degree” is no reason to brag.


52 posted on 02/20/2023 12:44:37 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Mr.Unique

LOL- but what do parents have??!!!


53 posted on 02/20/2023 1:08:24 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: jpp113

You’re absolutely right. And “consent of the governed” doesn’t apply in how publicly-financed school board operates.


54 posted on 02/20/2023 1:09:26 PM PST by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: MtnClimber

As my dad used to say (and he was a nuclear engineer) PhD is 💩 Piled Higher and Deeper..


55 posted on 02/20/2023 1:18:12 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi.. Hello 2023, can we get over 2020 yet? )
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To: MtnClimber

Parents credentials outranks teachers not yours.


56 posted on 02/20/2023 1:19:40 PM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: dagunk

“”I’m the guy who got called in when the papered folks couldn’t figure it out.
I have a GED.
Performance counts.””

I taught GED (English & Spanish) to adults for years. All of the adult students were natural born citizens, or legal immigrants. Some were smarter than I, just needed some refreshers in things like test taking techniques. Some of the smartest ones were legal immigrant mothers and grandmothers. I can’t tell you how many times I had to pump up their confidence. They had raised many children, managed a household, budgeting, scheduling, and on and on. Once I pointed out all they knew and had accomplished, they stood a little taller. Many had left school in order that the family kept eating. The GED was their ticket to advancement. Most of the classes were at night, and almost everyone had one or more day jobs.

It was so fun when the Spanish speakers would try to say “how can this gringo (me) know more Spanish (grammer and such) than us?” They had not had formal education, but, of course, spoke perfect Spanish. When this Irish Catholic Gringo (we grew up poor, but nothing like some others) pointed out that they just had not taken the time to analyze, study their own language, but they always knew how to conjugate, etc, they again became more confident. For some, I used my own experience working on cars. I did not know the name of every single thing, but I could fix it and make it run.

Also, most legal immigrants despise the creeps creeping into our country.


57 posted on 02/20/2023 1:43:05 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Scrambler Bob

We have a pandemic of narcissists.


58 posted on 02/20/2023 3:58:57 PM PST by FES0844
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To: Tell It Right

2 years as opposed to 4.

Some folks are just naturally brilliant.

Jou just gotta step back and admire them.


59 posted on 02/20/2023 4:08:40 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: MtnClimber
teachers used to only need a simple HS diploma to teach and that was when IMO the greatest advances in our country's education occurred....

a teacher should be knowledgeable about her subject matter but most important they should love the children, their job, and the idea of instilling confidence in young children....

what have we got now?....contracts, many days off, setting schedules to fit their whims, disrespecting parents....threatening to close the schools if they don't get more and more money....just sick of them...

I know many teachers, including my sister who is retired, and I can honestly say that ONE of them is truly dedicated and loves what she does...just ONE of all them...

60 posted on 02/20/2023 4:14:32 PM PST by cherry
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