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New geological study proves that the green energy movement is impossible to achieve: The green energy fantasy collides with the laws of thermodynamics
American Thinker ^ | 02/11/2023 | Robert A. Bishop

Posted on 02/11/2023 8:24:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The renewable energy fantasy goal is achieving net zero carbon emissions by 2050. Carpet-bombing propaganda has convinced the public to accept the extravagant claim that technology currently exists to reach net zero carbon emissions. Like carnival barkers, the net-zero fanatics say renewable energy is affordable, sustainable, scalable, and not an economy wrecker.

The goal is to create a first-generation green power grid relying on wind turbine farms, solar array farms, and power storage battery banks replacing fossil fuel and nuclear power plants. In addition, the new power grid would power a global fleet of electric vehicles that would replace the internal combustion engine.

Western society has taken one hundred fifty years of progress to achieve a fantastically complex energy system using the dense source of cheap hydrocarbon energy, the master resource. Yet the net zero devotees believe that the complex energy system can be dismantled with minimal disruption and replaced with a low-density renewable energy grid that is intermittent and non-scalable, in less than thirty years.

Well, I have horrible news for the devotees: the green energy fantasy collides with the laws of thermodynamics. The Greenies never researched whether or not there are sufficient base and rare earth metals and adequate time to mine and build out the technologies to accomplish the net zero carbon 2050 target date.

Simon P. Michaux of the Geological Survey of Finland has compiled an exhaustive study dismantling the overly ambitious task of phasing out fossil fuels.  His comprehensive analysis focuses on the required physical material resources and the extraction timeframe to create renewable energy generation systems.  A PowerPoint summary of his thousand-page study can be downloaded here.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: carbonpropaganda; climatechange; climatehoax; donate; fakescience; geology; greenenergy
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To: SeekAndFind
Green energy is a joke.

Case in point, I have a motion-detector solar security light outside my house (lights up my driveway). It rained all day yesterday here. When I went out shortly ago to see how wet my yard was (it's still dark here), my security light was about as bright as a firefly. I couldn't see anything.

When the sun is shining during the day, it lights up my driveway beautifully.

Rainy, cloudy day, no solar power.

21 posted on 02/12/2023 2:22:14 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: SeekAndFind

Child: Uncle Remus, why are they called “rare earth elements?”

Uncle Remus: Because they’re RARE, Joey. Very rare.


22 posted on 02/12/2023 3:40:05 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will, I will!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a hoax, and climate change is the mass hysteria of our times.


23 posted on 02/12/2023 4:18:08 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Greenies never researched whether or not there are sufficient base and rare earth metals and adequate time to mine and build out the technologies to accomplish the net zero carbon 2050 target date.”

Oh, they did, but they also rely on the fact that us conservatives will NEVER question their intentions...so our side keeps yapping, saying LOOK AT THE MATH, LOOK AT THE MATH, and people simply tune us out.

Now, if our side could come up with lines like:
1. Why do Democrats want to drive this country into the stone age?
2. Why do Democrats HATE the idea of people driving their own cars and pickups?
3. Why do Democrats want American people to have to live in high-rise apartments, rather than their own houses?
4. Why do Democrats want us to eat bugs instead of meat?

Go after intentions, and stop yapping at the math because the Democrats FULLY UNDERSTAND the math.


24 posted on 02/12/2023 4:42:47 AM PST by BobL
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To: SeekAndFind

ping


25 posted on 02/12/2023 4:47:43 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

Collides ya say???? Ya think???
“Collides” is a vast understatement. Real mechanical engineers are laughing their arses off these moronic woke POSs.
But hey, those “Laws of Thermodynamics” were written by racist, evil white men so they ALL must be wrong. FORWARD with green energy!!!! LMFAO!!!!


26 posted on 02/12/2023 5:26:32 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: SeekAndFind

Pick 5 cities. Use them as beta tests for the Green energy transformation project. Define success criteria, costs, risks, and time to complete. Put out competitive bids. Run the plan and base it on a five year test. If it works, sure, roll it out to more areas.

Caveat is cities have to be selected from across the globe. So Washington DC, Beijing, Moscow, London and Ottawa.

Or, we can do this. Here are the most polluted rivers in the world:

Ganges River. The Ganges River is the most sacred river in India. ...
Citarum River. The Citarum River is one of the most polluted rivers in the world. ...
Yellow River. ...
Sarno River. ...
Buriganga River. ...
Marilao River. ...
Mississippi River. ...
Jordan River.

Spend the next 5 years using available technology and clean them up. In the process, build desalination facilities, pumping stations, pipelines and change the culture of those that use the river as their dumping grounds. Use solar collecting material to coat the pipelines and from there create electricity that supports the pipelines and provides electricity to communities. Grow crops, plant trees which then can be used for creating economic opportunity zones and bring people out of poverty.

That’s how it is done.


27 posted on 02/12/2023 5:29:45 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (“Racist” is the new “Nazi”.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So sad to see American thinker descend into such nonsensical misinformation:

Fact check me on each of these: A tesla contains roughly 5 kg 12 pounds of lithium. (https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-electric-vehicle-battery-profits-51660832313) May sources cite 63 kg, but that’s the entire weight of the lithium compound not the amount of lithium. Also, that amount of lithium is far less than initial needs. The amount needed will certainly decline, but let’s go with current usage.

That’s about 200 cars per ton. Multiply that by 22,000,000 tons, and you get 4.4 billion cars, enough for every adult human. Now here’s the kicker: the lithium isn’t consumed, like gas. It’s fully recyclable. Right now, it’s much cheaper to mine than recycle. But if there ever IS a shortage, recycling is the obvious answer.

Also, we’re only talking about known global reserves. Now, if you know about Peak Oil, you know that we ran out of oil in 1990s. At least that’s what my 1970s textbook says. The current estimate of our global reserves of oil is now 50 years, up from 26 years. So that’s why there’s not a gun to our heads to switch from oil or die. But the same thing works with lithium. The global reserves are only about a billion tons. But there’s probably a million times more than that. (Earth’s crust: 3 x 10^22 kg, or 3 x 10^19 metric tons. At 0.02% lithium, that’s 6 x 10^15 tons. Your chart estimates 1 x 10^9.) So, if we can move from 1 x 10^-6 recoverable to 1 x 10^-5 recoverable, we’ll be swimming in lithium.

At the same time, the amount of lithium it takes to create a battery will probably shrink by 90% again.


28 posted on 02/12/2023 6:23:22 AM PST by dangus
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s overwhelming that there is not enough raw materials necessary to go to a 100% carbon dioxide free world.


29 posted on 02/12/2023 6:30:52 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Asking questions is your right.)
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To: Disambiguator

they forget about the O2 part of CO2. If plants don’t get carbon diOXIDE, we don’t get oxygen.


Part of the PLAN - remember this is about saving the PLANET not saving people, else if the later were true, there would be no such thing as abortion on demand.


30 posted on 02/12/2023 6:35:08 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: cockroach_magoo

The green energy fantasy collides with the laws of thermodynamics


Seems to have been added to the title by the poster


31 posted on 02/12/2023 6:37:28 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BradyLS
If the greenies get what they want, the mass of humanity—what’s left of it—won’t be enjoying “green energy,”

Most of humanity will be gone. That is the entire point of the program. All the details are camouflage and distractors to lessen the resistance. The "greenies" themselves will be gone too. They are useful idiots for their sponsors, and entirely disposable once they have succeeded in their assignments.

Our "elites" want a pre-industrial feudal society with themselves and their descendants as absolute rulers forever over an obedient peasantry. They cannot control a world with billions of people in it, so they must get rid of most of the population.

And that is viewpoint of the sane members of the "elite".

The extremists are self-destructive individuals who want to see the rest of the world perish before they do.

That is what we are dealing with. Compromise and appeasement are not really possible with people who want to exterminate you.

32 posted on 02/12/2023 7:00:16 AM PST by flamberge
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To: SeekAndFind

Logic doesn’t matter... the world is under the spell of a delusion.


33 posted on 02/12/2023 7:39:06 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: SeekAndFind
The article is incorrect.

"...the net zero devotees believe that the complex energy system can be dismantled with minimal disruption and replaced with a low-density renewable energy grid that is intermittent and non-scalable, in less than thirty years. "

They are trying to dismantle the system. However, they do not believe it will happen with minimal disruption. They do not believe it can be replaced. The destruction is intentional. The purpose is genocide.
34 posted on 02/12/2023 7:44:43 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: SeekAndFind

The goal is to create a first-generation green power grid relying on wind turbine farms, solar array farms.

Ice lightening tornados fires earthquakes disarm devices for weeks on end body count ensues.


35 posted on 02/12/2023 8:51:48 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: ApplegateRanch

Yep I already invested in a solar clothes dryer cheap too 50 foot rope.


36 posted on 02/12/2023 8:54:29 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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