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Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 19 Jan, 2023 | Francis Menton

Posted on 01/20/2023 5:39:24 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

Bkmk


21 posted on 01/20/2023 7:27:26 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: MtnClimber

Look at the sky in the picture associated with this article.

That is not an overcast day. It is air-pollution. That’s a normal day. The sky is not blue in Chinese cities.


22 posted on 01/20/2023 7:44:47 AM PST by Fai Mao (Stop feeding the beast, and steal its food!)
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To: MtnClimber
How many people know that prior to 1949 China was a friendly country? Chiang Kai-shek was far from perfect (he was fanatically pro-moslem and anti-Israel for one thing), but he wasn't destabilizing Asia.

Thanks again, liberals.

23 posted on 01/20/2023 7:49:25 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: sergeantdave

Don’t think anyone cares much about gp and gm enjoying their senior years not can gp and gm afford it. No cruise ships.


24 posted on 01/20/2023 8:22:52 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: MMusson

Just posing a thought for consideration, is a blue water navy really essential for China now as it has been for the US?

The trade routes within the island chain outboard of China can be controlled by relatively short range land based missiles never having to put a fleet or aircraft carrier in harms way. The Chicom trade fleet could be obliterated in that way just as submarines did the same to the Japanese trade fleet.

The Chicoms can project outward of their bathtub in a similar way but only so far as the outer islands from Japan all the way to Indonesia. Some land bases may be needed to expand but Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Malaysia are land battles, not easy but require no navy.

There is no need to project into the vastness of the Pacific, it is only water after all, nothing to take. What they need and want are resources; those are available without spanning the Pacific.

It is even much easier to go to war to the west, with the Stans and Russia than it is to go east.

As for taking or conquering the US, why?


25 posted on 01/20/2023 8:32:50 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Sequoyah101
As for taking or conquering the US, why?

If you believe the common wisdom on FR, the most vaxxed group in the world, aka the US Military, will be reduced to a shell force by disease, debilitation, and death.

So the ChiComs can just roll up to the US Capitol and ask for the keys....

26 posted on 01/20/2023 8:37:53 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Sequoyah101

Clearing Tiananmen Square of 50 million complaining grandpas and grandpas, who are the Mandarin kin of the ChiComm rulers, will be an impossible task.

The ChiComm subsidized cruise fleet will be built. Tickets will cost 10 renminbi, equivalent to $1.47. All-you-can-eat Peking duck buffets included. At 7pm sharp. Entertainment by Japanese Elvis impersonators. 9pm to midnight.


27 posted on 01/20/2023 8:54:19 AM PST by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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To: MtnClimber

They have many ghost cities. Near empty poorly constructed buildings.


28 posted on 01/20/2023 9:03:48 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: sergeantdave

50 million is rounding error. Not a problem.


29 posted on 01/20/2023 9:32:58 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: central_va; EEGator
China Imports from United States was US$180.97 Billion during 2021, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade.

China Imports from United StatesValueYear
Electrical, electronic equipment $22.50B 2021
Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products $21.40B 2021
Machinery, nuclear reactors, boilers $19.56B 2021
Oil seed, oleagic fruits, grain, seed, fruits $17.83B 2021
Vehicles other than railway, tramway $13.84B 2021
Optical, photo, technical, medical apparatus $13.27B 2021
Cereals $8.57B 2021
Plastics $7.40B 2021
Pharmaceutical products $7.04B 2021
Miscellaneous chemical products $4.49B 2021
Organic chemicals $4.15B 2021
Meat and edible meat offal $4.11B 2021
Aircraft, spacecraft $3.06B 2021
Essential oils, perfumes, cosmetics, toileteries $2.52B 2021
Ores slag and ash $2.31B 2021
Copper $2.17B 2021
Wood and articles of wood, wood charcoal $1.97B 2021
Pulp of wood, fibrous cellulosic material, waste $1.68B 2021
Cotton $1.60B 2021
Articles of iron or steel $1.10B 2021
Inorganic chemicals, precious metal compound, isotope $1.09B 2021
Pearls, precious stones, metals, coins $1.08B 2021
Edible fruits, nuts, peel of citrus fruit, melons $1.02B 2021
Soaps, lubricants, waxes, candles, modelling pastes $1.01B 2021
Miscellaneous edible preparations $1.00B 2021
Glass and glassware $980.07M 2021
Fish, crustaceans, molluscs, aquatics invertebrates $975.16M 2021
Paper and paperboard, articles of pulp, paper and board $800.23M 2021
Rubbers $725.32M 2021
Residues, wastes of food industry, animal fodder $718.19M 2021
Commodities not specified according to kind $717.62M 2021
Raw hides and skins (other than furskins) and leather $702.20M 2021
Printed books, newspapers, pictures $680.56M 2021
Salt, sulphur, earth, stone, plaster, lime and cement $615.08M 2021
Photographic or cinematographic goods $594.51M 2021
Albuminoids, modified starches, glues, enzymes $561.12M 2021
Works of art, collectors' pieces and antiques $534.13M 2021
Dairy products, eggs, honey, edible products $485.26M 2021
Tanning, dyeing extracts, tannins, derivatives, pigments $437.08M 2021
Beverages, spirits and vinegar $426.96M 2021
Nickel $419.66M 2021
Aluminum $410.45M 2021
Products of animal origin $343.69M 2021
Vegetable, fruit, nut food preparations $336.70M 2021
Base metals not specified elsewhere, cermets. $322.16M 2021
Iron and steel $304.24M 2021
Stone, plaster, cement, asbestos, mica or similar materials $296.49M 2021
Ceramic products $247.06M 2021
Tools, implements, cutlery of base metal $234.88M 2021
Wadding, felt, nonwovens, yarns, twine, cordage $203.49M 2021
Miscellaneous articles of base metal $182.69M 2021
Furniture, lighting signs, prefabricated buildings $181.83M 2021
Tobacco and manufactures tobacco substitutes $181.21M 2021
Sugars and sugar confectionery $139.93M 2021
Animal, vegetable fats and oils, cleavage products $133.05M 2021
Toys, games, sports requisites $132.18M 2021
Footwear, gaiters and the like, $107.75M 2021
Manmade filaments $106.54M 2021
Miscellanneous manufactured articles $100.11M 2021
Manmade staple fibers $89.78M 2021
Impregnated, coated or laminated textile fabric $85.61M 2021
Cereal, flour, starch, milk preparations and products $79.52M 2021
Articles of leather, animal gut, harness, travel good $58.65M 2021
Cocoa and cocoa preparations $47.88M 2021
Edible vegetables and certain roots and tubers $47.76M 2021
Live animals $46.75M 2021
Railway, tramway locomotives, rolling stock, equipment $45.18M 2021
Musical instruments, parts and accessories $34.59M 2021

The map below shows for an earlier year, I think 2021, visualizing China's biggest import partners.

As you can see, while the USA is behind China's neighbors like South Korea, Taiwan and Japan, it is a pretty decent showing

You are right that if China stopped importing from the USA, then that would have minimal direct impact on the USA's exports


30 posted on 01/23/2023 12:13:10 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: MtnClimber

Just so long as the Chinese are still pumping out cheap stuff for the Dollar Tree store. Like $1.25 eyeglasses and cheap thin socks that work great for my athletic shoes.


31 posted on 01/23/2023 12:22:19 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Cronos; EEGator
Trade Deficit with your Chicom lovers:
U.S. goods and services trade with China totaled an estimated $615.2 billion in 2020. Exports were $164.9 billion; imports were $450.4 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with China was $285.5 billion in 2020. China is currently our largest goods trading partner with $559.2 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2020.
32 posted on 01/23/2023 4:33:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Before the USA finally started to fight back ( Pre Trump ), the ChiComs imposed a 7.5% tariff on US import. The USA had around 3%. Now both USA and China impose a higher tariff on each others imports. China's is 21% and te USA's is 19%.

US-China Trade War Tariffs: An Up-to-Date Chart

33 posted on 01/23/2023 4:42:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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